I wouldn't dare try to influence you to bring in their birds Tony
Each and every fancier has their own choices about where and how (or not) they spend their money
As it happens i'm just doing the sales list for Robbie Wilton and I see that many of his best 0-250 miles performances in the last 2 yeas have been from Stock introduced from Gordon Bros and Sons.
Silvers
Ant I'd say that over 85% of pigeons raced are blue or cheq. Is it any wonder that those two colours produce the majority of the winners? And your right you don't see many chocs or yellows at marking and very few ever win because very few get raced. Grizzles are more common and have been winning races for many years, there even more common since the kittles arrived. A fancier local to me had a decent yellow years ago it won many cards over the channel. There was a post on chat where somebody said that near white pigeons never win, but I could name 3 that have won 1st Open NFC.Anthony webster wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:32 pm May be Mike but in 20 yrs iv seen 1 grizzle in all the clubs that could race iv never seen a chocolate or a yellow in fact iv never seen a yellow get home for lad that kept them ,,
Iv seen odd shalie n odd mosiac but can count one one hand in 20 years.
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Anthony webster
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I'm OK thanks Mike,
Like many I stick to getting birds of friends iv fetched new birds in
Dirk mariens and a dtr of joppe of Jan mees
But best of luck to lads with there birds.
Like many I stick to getting birds of friends iv fetched new birds in
Dirk mariens and a dtr of joppe of Jan mees
But best of luck to lads with there birds.
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MIke Lycett
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Good luck with those Tony too - I hope they do well for you
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Cheers Mike.MIke Lycett wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:09 pm Good luck with those Tony too - I hope they do well for you
Anthony webster wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:55 pm I'm OK thanks Mike,
Like many I stick to getting birds of friends iv fetched new birds in
Dirk mariens and a dtr of joppe of Jan mees
But best of luck to lads with there birds.
Many Grizzles amongst them Anthony
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MIke Lycett
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You know, if i was racing now the one thing i wouldn’t consider would be the colour
The performances would be paramount, and a pigeons colour and eye (for instance) would have zero influence on me
The performances would be paramount, and a pigeons colour and eye (for instance) would have zero influence on me
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Got nothing against grizzles pal but no there's no grizzles ,I had a brilliant breeder a dark cock off van d brand super grizzle lolNeilA wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:17 pmAnthony webster wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:55 pm I'm OK thanks Mike,
Like many I stick to getting birds of friends iv fetched new birds in
Dirk mariens and a dtr of joppe of Jan mees
But best of luck to lads with there birds.
Many Grizzles amongst them Anthony![]()
Just you must admit the amount of grizzles in auctions n blizzard this super blizzard that n all 99.9 percent useless I don't see the lads in belaer racing these birds n racing them now in tour of Belgium gambling for 30,000 euros a race these are bred marketed for foreign fanciers us idiots in uk usa China n so on ,,the sprint flyers in the villages in Belgium ain't buying them.
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I agree a good pigeon can't be a bad colour just like a dog ,but fuk me there's so bollix on these auctions with these grizzles n names .MIke Lycett wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:23 pm You know, if i was racing now the one thing i wouldn’t consider would be the colour
The performances would be paramount, and a pigeons colour and eye (for instance) would have zero influence on me
Anthony webster wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:28 pmGot nothing against grizzles pal but no there's no grizzles ,I had a brilliant breeder a dark cock off van d brand super grizzle lolNeilA wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:17 pmAnthony webster wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:55 pm I'm OK thanks Mike,
Like many I stick to getting birds of friends iv fetched new birds in
Dirk mariens and a dtr of joppe of Jan mees
But best of luck to lads with there birds.
Many Grizzles amongst them Anthony![]()
Just you must admit the amount of grizzles in auctions n blizzard this super blizzard that n all 99.9 percent useless I don't see the lads in belaer racing these birds n racing them now in tour of Belgium gambling for 30,000 euros a race these are bred marketed for foreign fanciers us idiots in uk usa China n so on ,,the sprint flyers in the villages in Belgium ain't buying them.
The naming of youngsters bred for sale doesn’t do much for me . I guess it sells though
I also don’t even read the advert if the loft doesn’t race they can have the best pigeons in the world and breed loads of winners but if they don’t race I move on .
I don’t understand all the strains and names I would have to ask Mike
I use to get the Belgian papers when I was about 19 that’s the last time I looked a Belgian result so i would be useless at knowing who is best currently
I try to look what the blokes won over 3 years in the uk more in old bird races and go from there to check things out
Not that I’m much of a buyer anyway
To skint or to tight one of the two
