Have you ever had a bad toss at this distance Neil? Over the years I've heard of some right disasters at these short tosses. Recall a local fancier once have 12/70 from just 3 miles!NeilA wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:32 pm How far have we got our ybs trained ?
I have had 4 at 4 miles
Going 10 tomorrow we start on the 27th
Sounds ok but not a lot of time with the weather up and down
Yb training and first race
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Hello NeilA, sorry to ask you I've looked at this post I can't get my head around it please can you clarify for me.NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:26 amHi Kingking wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 amHave you ever had a bad toss at this distance Neil? Over the years I've heard of some right disasters at these short tosses. Recall a local fancier once have 12/70 from just 3 miles!NeilA wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:32 pm How far have we got our ybs trained ?
I have had 4 at 4 miles
Going 10 tomorrow we start on the 27th
Sounds ok but not a lot of time with the weather up and down
What I do is let out about 6am
Feed in with 7 gram per bird of a mix of barley and seed . Then go to work and train after work so I get the fly out of them plus there hungry so not really had a bad toss there
Each time I have arrived home with them in
Normally I only go there once maybe twice but this year I went 3 times not for any reason just to keep them training as the weather has been so poor here I just got one in between showers yesterday
Tonight they will go about 8/9 miles for 3 days then to 15 for 3 days
After that I go 20 miles 3 times then 25 miles north east and 25 miles north west both about 3 times
After that as many as I can at 20 miles ( my break point and 3-4 nights a week for the 5 or 6 weeks I race at 20 miles
So you said you feed in 7 grams per pigeon to get them in, in old money NeilA what's that in ounces, I've tried to covert it but without much luck would it be about 1/4 ounce & in total per day what do they get in ounces.
Regards Dave
Sorry for answering but yes around a 1/4 ounceCHARLTON34 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:55 pmHello NeilA, sorry to ask you I've looked at this post I can't get my head around it please can you clarify for me.NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:26 amHi Kingking wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 am
Have you ever had a bad toss at this distance Neil? Over the years I've heard of some right disasters at these short tosses. Recall a local fancier once have 12/70 from just 3 miles!
What I do is let out about 6am
Feed in with 7 gram per bird of a mix of barley and seed . Then go to work and train after work so I get the fly out of them plus there hungry so not really had a bad toss there
Each time I have arrived home with them in
Normally I only go there once maybe twice but this year I went 3 times not for any reason just to keep them training as the weather has been so poor here I just got one in between showers yesterday
Tonight they will go about 8/9 miles for 3 days then to 15 for 3 days
After that I go 20 miles 3 times then 25 miles north east and 25 miles north west both about 3 times
After that as many as I can at 20 miles ( my break point and 3-4 nights a week for the 5 or 6 weeks I race at 20 miles
So you said you feed in 7 grams per pigeon to get them in, in old money NeilA what's that in ounces, I've tried to covert it but without much luck would it be about 1/4 ounce & in total per day what do they get in ounces.
Regards Dave
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Can I ask why you don't feed peas Neil, I know you don't race distance but what part do they play in under 300 miles if fed, I used to use a good all rounder/ widowhood mix when I raced at all distances
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Thanks for that, have to say never really understood the feeding that is probably why I used all rounder/widowhood mixNeilA wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:23 pmWell I think. the energy mix has just as high protein as peas or beans it also breaks down quickly so they get that plus it has the fatsBuster121 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:05 pm Can I ask why you don't feed peas Neil, I know you don't race distance but what part do they play in under 300 miles if fed, I used to use a good all rounder/ widowhood mix when I raced at all distances
I’m not mad on protein for sprinting unless they need repair then again the energy mix does that or powders if you prefer plus the mix I use will be low protein but still be around 8-10 per cent maybe a little higher with the fat seeds used AM
Also I have read that heavy protein can thicken the blood
I believe adding the energy mix Saturday better than a heavy protein
So my birds get protein but not in a hard to digest grain
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Thanks again for the infoNeilA wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:02 pm Them energy seeds are high protein high fat Buster all like safflower sunflower hemp etc plus breaks down quick
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Best of luck for racing today NeilA & Anthony hope you have a good one, also to everyone that sent best of luck.
Regards Dave.
Regards Dave.
I think Australia is every bit as bad for Hawks as us if not worse, I think you have got to be careful, how you train, where you train, and when you train.Andy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:21 pm Try training like that down here and you wouldn’t have any pigeons left within a couple of weeks. One of our members who had a bit of trouble with young bird sickness a while ago has been trying to get his going. He had a few trainers but at the beginning of the week took them about 20 miles. Let them go early morning and by late afternoon only had 4 from 39. Had a few late in the day and after a few days was up to 27. Some back hawked.
