Yb training and first race

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NeilA wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:32 pm How far have we got our ybs trained ?
I have had 4 at 4 miles
Going 10 tomorrow we start on the 27th
Sounds ok but not a lot of time with the weather up and down
Have you ever had a bad toss at this distance Neil? Over the years I've heard of some right disasters at these short tosses. Recall a local fancier once have 12/70 from just 3 miles!
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Had 3 at 15 Miles, plan is another 2 at 25, and 2 at 35, and then first race.
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That is going some, well done to them
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NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:26 am
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 am
NeilA wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:32 pm How far have we got our ybs trained ?
I have had 4 at 4 miles
Going 10 tomorrow we start on the 27th
Sounds ok but not a lot of time with the weather up and down
Have you ever had a bad toss at this distance Neil? Over the years I've heard of some right disasters at these short tosses. Recall a local fancier once have 12/70 from just 3 miles!
Hi King
What I do is let out about 6am
Feed in with 7 gram per bird of a mix of barley and seed . Then go to work and train after work so I get the fly out of them plus there hungry so not really had a bad toss there
Each time I have arrived home with them in
Normally I only go there once maybe twice but this year I went 3 times not for any reason just to keep them training as the weather has been so poor here I just got one in between showers yesterday
Tonight they will go about 8/9 miles for 3 days then to 15 for 3 days
After that I go 20 miles 3 times then 25 miles north east and 25 miles north west both about 3 times
After that as many as I can at 20 miles ( my break point and 3-4 nights a week for the 5 or 6 weeks I race at 20 miles
Hello NeilA, sorry to ask you I've looked at this post I can't get my head around it please can you clarify for me.
So you said you feed in 7 grams per pigeon to get them in, in old money NeilA what's that in ounces, I've tried to covert it but without much luck would it be about 1/4 ounce & in total per day what do they get in ounces.
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CHARLTON34 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:55 pm
NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:26 am
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 am

Have you ever had a bad toss at this distance Neil? Over the years I've heard of some right disasters at these short tosses. Recall a local fancier once have 12/70 from just 3 miles!
Hi King
What I do is let out about 6am
Feed in with 7 gram per bird of a mix of barley and seed . Then go to work and train after work so I get the fly out of them plus there hungry so not really had a bad toss there
Each time I have arrived home with them in
Normally I only go there once maybe twice but this year I went 3 times not for any reason just to keep them training as the weather has been so poor here I just got one in between showers yesterday
Tonight they will go about 8/9 miles for 3 days then to 15 for 3 days
After that I go 20 miles 3 times then 25 miles north east and 25 miles north west both about 3 times
After that as many as I can at 20 miles ( my break point and 3-4 nights a week for the 5 or 6 weeks I race at 20 miles
Hello NeilA, sorry to ask you I've looked at this post I can't get my head around it please can you clarify for me.
So you said you feed in 7 grams per pigeon to get them in, in old money NeilA what's that in ounces, I've tried to covert it but without much luck would it be about 1/4 ounce & in total per day what do they get in ounces.
Regards Dave
Sorry for answering but yes around a 1/4 ounce
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Can I ask why you don't feed peas Neil, I know you don't race distance but what part do they play in under 300 miles if fed, I used to use a good all rounder/ widowhood mix when I raced at all distances
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NeilA wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:23 pm
Buster121 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:05 pm Can I ask why you don't feed peas Neil, I know you don't race distance but what part do they play in under 300 miles if fed, I used to use a good all rounder/ widowhood mix when I raced at all distances
Well I think. the energy mix has just as high protein as peas or beans it also breaks down quickly so they get that plus it has the fats
I’m not mad on protein for sprinting unless they need repair then again the energy mix does that or powders if you prefer plus the mix I use will be low protein but still be around 8-10 per cent maybe a little higher with the fat seeds used AM
Also I have read that heavy protein can thicken the blood
I believe adding the energy mix Saturday better than a heavy protein
So my birds get protein but not in a hard to digest grain
Thanks for that, have to say never really understood the feeding that is probably why I used all rounder/widowhood mix
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NeilA wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:02 pm Them energy seeds are high protein high fat Buster all like safflower sunflower hemp etc plus breaks down quick
Thanks again for the info
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Best of luck for racing today NeilA & Anthony hope you have a good one, also to everyone that sent best of luck.
Regards Dave.
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Andy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:21 pm Try training like that down here and you wouldn’t have any pigeons left within a couple of weeks. One of our members who had a bit of trouble with young bird sickness a while ago has been trying to get his going. He had a few trainers but at the beginning of the week took them about 20 miles. Let them go early morning and by late afternoon only had 4 from 39. Had a few late in the day and after a few days was up to 27. Some back hawked.
I think Australia is every bit as bad for Hawks as us if not worse, I think you have got to be careful, how you train, where you train, and when you train.
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