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My bad buster i wasn't aware that what i said was so bad i wont do it again mateBuster121 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 12:16 pm Leon please do not use swear words, I have changed it for you
100% Leon. Good pigeons just are MORE LIKELY to produce good pigeons. Top stock birds like 'Drum' have bred 100s of offspring. But I'll bet nobody could name 10 good birds it's bred?Spieker-Loft wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 12:04 pm Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.
But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.
If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.
Sorry for your loss of your youngsters, if they were strong on the wing. Less chance of seeing them again Chris, but i hope i am wrong and they return.Chris1978 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 1:26 pm First time up for these 2 whent right up high like tiplers and strong on wing bit pissed off but that how it goes
I will post this King.king wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:08 pm100% Leon. Good pigeons just are MORE LIKELY to produce good pigeons. Top stock birds like 'Drum' have bred 100s of offspring. But I'll bet nobody could name 10 good birds it's bred?Spieker-Loft wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 12:04 pm Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.
But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.
If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.
You hear of pairs breeding winners in every nest, but I never met a fancier who could back up that claim.
I understand what you’re saying Devo but these have been purchased by a stud. No details of what any of them have achieved or what their offspring have done. Good bit of marketing though.Devo1956 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:30 pmI will post this King.king wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:08 pm100% Leon. Good pigeons just are MORE LIKELY to produce good pigeons. Top stock birds like 'Drum' have bred 100s of offspring. But I'll bet nobody could name 10 good birds it's bred?Spieker-Loft wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 12:04 pm Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.
But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.
If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.
You hear of pairs breeding winners in every nest, but I never met a fancier who could back up that claim.