Winers bread winers

[Chris1978]

I got some realy good stock pigeons bread some good young birds of a few of them but also lost a few did not think would lose you g pigeons like that get up gone so can you lose the best young just off the loft like that or must be not all good just few off that good pair pigeons??

[Spieker-Loft]

Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.

But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.

If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.

[Buster121]

Leon please do not use swear words, I have changed it for you

[Diamond Dave]

There are also there reasons you can lose babies off the top Chris.
One is letting them out on a race day (sometimes midweek) before they have any training.
I have a particular problem where my village is on a bit of a hill and you can see for miles into a shallow valley.
So everyone and his dog trains from here including old birds all season. If the babies have not been trained they will go off with the trainers and not come back - however good they are. As a consequence I only let my babies start going out in the afternoons- never the mornings until they have been trained or ranging.

[Chris1978]

First time up for these 2 whent right up high like tiplers and strong on wing bit peed off but that how it goes

[Spieker-Loft]

Leon please do not use swear words, I have changed it for you

My bad buster i wasn't aware that what i said was so bad i wont do it again mate

[king]

Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.

But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.

If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.

100% Leon. Good pigeons just are MORE LIKELY to produce good pigeons. Top stock birds like 'Drum' have bred 100s of offspring. But I'll bet nobody could name 10 good birds it's bred?
You hear of pairs breeding winners in every nest, but I never met a fancier who could back up that claim.

[Devo1956]

First time up for these 2 whent right up high like tiplers and strong on wing bit pissed off but that how it goes

Sorry for your loss of your youngsters, if they were strong on the wing. Less chance of seeing them again Chris, but i hope i am wrong and they return.

[Devo1956]

Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.

But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.

If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.

100% Leon. Good pigeons just are MORE LIKELY to produce good pigeons. Top stock birds like 'Drum' have bred 100s of offspring. But I'll bet nobody could name 10 good birds it's bred?
You hear of pairs breeding winners in every nest, but I never met a fancier who could back up that claim.

I will post this King.

[Andy]

Bird of prey can always take your best bird. Specially with youngbirds if you get them going around the house and bird of prey attacks more often then not you actually loose more then 1 bird just because of the pure fear they spread everywhere and just fly in 1 direction without thinking how to get back home.

But i can most certainly tell you that winners do not automatically breed winners then the sport would also be to easy. For me there is huge differences between a good racer and a good breeder. We have 3rd ace pigeon of the state westfalia in our loft he won
3x1st on different races against an average of 3200p also won 2nd vs 14.777p 13th vs 9275p and 13th vs 10665p and many more top prizes. This bird is now 10 years old and has bred nothing.

If the stock birds you got are new and this is their first year breeding and the birds are gone i wouldnt stress it yet. But if this happens 2-3 years in a row id get gone of them.

100% Leon. Good pigeons just are MORE LIKELY to produce good pigeons. Top stock birds like 'Drum' have bred 100s of offspring. But I'll bet nobody could name 10 good birds it's bred?
You hear of pairs breeding winners in every nest, but I never met a fancier who could back up that claim.

I will post this King.

I understand what you’re saying Devo but these have been purchased by a stud. No details of what any of them have achieved or what their offspring have done. Good bit of marketing though.