Top breeder or ??

[Spieker-Loft]

Would like to hear some thoughts on this.

I have a hen. As a YB she got lost on the first training race with the combine she returned 4 weeks later.
This year as a yearling on the 2nd race she got lost and returned just a few days ago. So 8 weeks later.

Now i once read an article of a german fanicer whos been 2-3x in the top 10 of german old bird championship and he said.
This would be his type of pigeon he would put into his breeding loft. A pigeon with that much love for his home is a top breeder.

I wonder what your guys thoughts are on this. In my opinion She probaly wouldnt make it in 98% of peoples loft as anything close to a breeder but this guys article has given me something to think about. Im not sure if stuff like this gets passed down to their offspring and if such thing as "Love for the home" has to do with breeding or just the bird itself. but yeah would like to hear some thoughts

[Devo1956]

Would like to hear some thoughts on this.

I have a hen. As a YB she got lost on the first training race with the combine she returned 4 weeks later.
This year as a yearling on the 2nd race she got lost and returned just a few days ago. So 8 weeks later.

Now i once read an article of a german fanicer whos been 2-3x in the top 10 of german old bird championship and he said.
This would be his type of pigeon he would put into his breeding loft. A pigeon with that much love for his home is a top breeder.

I wonder what your guys thoughts are on this. In my opinion She probaly wouldnt make it in 98% of peoples loft as anything close to a breeder but this guys article has given me something to think about. Im not sure if stuff like this gets passed down to their offspring and if such thing as "Love for the home" has to do with breeding or just the bird itself. but yeah would like to hear some thoughts

First question i would like to ask, what is the breeding lines of this bird?
Does it show winning lines through family genes going back to great-grandparents
Are there any siblings, that have shown in racing?

[CHARLTON34]

Gone off the radar twice then turns up weeks later, why would you waste your time on pairing it up in the 1st place, pigeon racing is hard enough these day's with your team giving 100% every race.
Not for me Leon I don't tolerate fool's & certainly wouldn't be giving it a second chance, do yourself a favour & save yourself even more hassle.

[Spieker-Loft]

Gone off the radar twice then turns up weeks later, why would you waste your time on pairing it up in the 1st place, pigeon racing is hard enough these day's with your team giving 100% every race.
Not for me Leon I don't tolerate fool's & certainly wouldn't be giving it a second chance, do yourself a favour & save yourself even more hassle.

Completely valid and i do agree. As i said sometimes just thinking about that article i read about 2 weeks ago. i guess for him she would be a perfect one

[Spieker-Loft]

Would like to hear some thoughts on this.

I have a hen. As a YB she got lost on the first training race with the combine she returned 4 weeks later.
This year as a yearling on the 2nd race she got lost and returned just a few days ago. So 8 weeks later.

Now i once read an article of a german fanicer whos been 2-3x in the top 10 of german old bird championship and he said.
This would be his type of pigeon he would put into his breeding loft. A pigeon with that much love for his home is a top breeder.

I wonder what your guys thoughts are on this. In my opinion She probaly wouldnt make it in 98% of peoples loft as anything close to a breeder but this guys article has given me something to think about. Im not sure if stuff like this gets passed down to their offspring and if such thing as "Love for the home" has to do with breeding or just the bird itself. but yeah would like to hear some thoughts

First question i would like to ask, what is the breeding lines of this bird?
Does it show winning lines through family genes going back to great-grandparents
Are there any siblings, that have shown in racing?

Yes siblings have raced well her nest brother also raced very well as a YB. she got good papers aswell but i woulnd't use her for breeding as i dont believe in this mans theories but i wanted to hear others opinion since this bird comming home a few days ago reminded me of this article i read

[Devo1956]

Will you be sending her to the race this week?

[Spieker-Loft]

Will you be sending her to the race this week?

At current plans im done with racing ob+yl this year. Will be fully decided on wednesday tho all depends on where they want to race from
but even if i do plan to race i wont basket her again this year.

[Andy]

Would like to hear some thoughts on this.

I have a hen. As a YB she got lost on the first training race with the combine she returned 4 weeks later.
This year as a yearling on the 2nd race she got lost and returned just a few days ago. So 8 weeks later.

Now i once read an article of a german fanicer whos been 2-3x in the top 10 of german old bird championship and he said.
This would be his type of pigeon he would put into his breeding loft. A pigeon with that much love for his home is a top breeder.

I wonder what your guys thoughts are on this. In my opinion She probaly wouldnt make it in 98% of peoples loft as anything close to a breeder but this guys article has given me something to think about. Im not sure if stuff like this gets passed down to their offspring and if such thing as "Love for the home" has to do with breeding or just the bird itself. but yeah would like to hear some thoughts

First question i would like to ask, what is the breeding lines of this bird?
Does it show winning lines through family genes going back to great-grandparents
Are there any siblings, that have shown in racing?

Yes siblings have raced well her nest brother also raced very well as a YB. she got good papers aswell but i woulnd't use her for breeding as i dont believe in this mans theories but i wanted to hear others opinion since this bird comming home a few days ago reminded me of this article i read

I would certainly give her ago. Some of my best breeders over the years have been useless as racers themselves but siblings have done well. I won Lerwick with a hen who’s nest mate sister couldn’t make a race on the day as a youngster. The Lerwick winner never bred me anything but the nest mate became the mother of my loft back in the 90s. She was dam, G.dam & G.G.dam of lots of winners.

[Andy]

I think birds need testing for breeding in the same way as we test for racing. I would think that a lot of potentially top breeders are got rid of just because of making a couple of mistakes at racing.