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Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 10:39 am
by Anthony webster
20percent paddy rice 10 percent barley same as koopman ,,koopman uses grated carrot in moult as well until hopper is empty they don't get any new food.

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:09 pm
by Anthony webster
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 10:47 am
Anthony webster wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 10:39 am 20percent paddy rice 10 percent barley same as koopman ,,koopman uses grated carrot in moult as well until hopper is empty they don't get any new food.
Trouble though say you do that but they take all the carbs or fatty bits out the mix and it’s Thursday there only going to have what they don’t really want to eat just when you want them to eat
I’m looking for either barley or peas then work around that then build from there in my normal way
With flying a few longer races and birds coming home different days with holdovers and distance . I was wanting a mix they could top up in the rebuild that my sprinters that may have just had a 100 mile race wouldn’t pig out on
Iv never done it but Ryan gadson did he's aim was bicc but that Yr mid week n Saturday racing he's old birds won 16x1st .

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 4:22 pm
by CHARLTON34
Richard wade uses beans a lot I think in his feed Neil, think Northern Power House YouTube clip talks about it, not sure what distance he's flying.

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:14 pm
by Anthony webster
If ya nrcc Neil the last feeds are down to conveyer n at nrcc it looked like best all round they get on the lorry nothing special was in clear bags maples maize n wheat mostly ,,and the grills on the Geraldy wagon ain't deep so food spilled out and then shit on will be eaten following morning so the most important days are out you hand for nrcc ,,
Mark gilbert n so many others feed superstar plus all week for all distances

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:59 pm
by Anthony webster
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:45 pm
Anthony webster wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:14 pm If ya nrcc Neil the last feeds are down to conveyer n at nrcc it looked like best all round they get on the lorry nothing special was in clear bags maples maize n wheat mostly ,,and the grills on the Geraldy wagon ain't deep so food spilled out and then shit on will be eaten following morning so the most important days are out you hand for nrcc ,,
Mark gilbert n so many others feed superstar plus all week for all distances
I know what you mean
I fed 50 per cent fats last 2 days as I new there be none
The bit I can’t work out is how I go about nrcc birds and sprint in the same section
For recovery for nrcc and tick over for sprint say nrcc go up Sunday 350 miles head wind
Fed 100 miles Saturday it’s the Sunday to Wednesday feed more than last feeds if you see what I mean
I still want to build my sprinters like normal as my babies only had one race there more for fed races plus 2/3 others
Lock cocks in boxes until everything is fed then each pigeon can be fed exactly how you want to feed them .

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:09 pm
by Anthony webster
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:06 pm
Anthony webster wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:59 pm
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:45 pm

I know what you mean
I fed 50 per cent fats last 2 days as I new there be none
The bit I can’t work out is how I go about nrcc birds and sprint in the same section
For recovery for nrcc and tick over for sprint say nrcc go up Sunday 350 miles head wind
Fed 100 miles Saturday it’s the Sunday to Wednesday feed more than last feeds if you see what I mean
I still want to build my sprinters like normal as my babies only had one race there more for fed races plus 2/3 others
Lock cocks in boxes until everything is fed then each pigeon can be fed exactly how you want to feed them .
I sound like a excuse after excuse but I got cocks on V’s mate only 2/3 have box not ideal but the v’s worked decent on a little experiment
So I cocked up not thinking of sprinting and nrcc when I did it
I put v’s at every high point
I thought of screwing a pot next to them but that goes back to feeding in the dark in the morning and disturbing them
More than I need
I could feed 25 per cent barley or beans every day and if some are recovering they can keep scoffing maybe

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:10 pm
by Anthony webster
Khan brothers feed hens in pots on V perches

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:27 pm
by Anthony webster
Old guys use to have a hessian bag with grower pellets in ,left in loft 24,7 just tied high in loft at night .

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:57 pm
by Anthony webster
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:43 pm
Anthony webster wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:27 pm Old guys use to have a hessian bag with grower pellets in ,left in loft 24,7 just tied high in loft at night .
You think there ok
I had it on my mind but thought I dont really understand whats in them
Can they get mould ? Or fungus at all
I have only used them for stock like a spoon with fats first feed not left
Pigeon pellets you can get mould fungi
Poultry pellets cooked at such a temp you can't get mould or fungi with them ok

Re: One base Grain system

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:58 pm
by Anthony webster
Usa they use piglet pellets 26 percent protein.