Chlamydia treatment?

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Hi all

I’ve got a hen bird been struggling for a few weeks now. Hunched up, bit of weight loss but nothing in the mouth or throat, droppings look ok. I tried Gamba tabs and Tollisan Matrix in her water for 5 days, which seemed to be perking her up, but now she’s gone downhill again, getting occasional tremors and one of the eyes looks a bit ‘off’. She’s eating, had a bath a day or so back, but not recovering.

Looking at all the videos available Chlamydia looks like the most likely, but the water treatment clearly hasn’t done its job. Any ideas?
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PeteDerby wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 pm Hi all

I’ve got a hen bird been struggling for a few weeks now. Hunched up, bit of weight loss but nothing in the mouth or throat, droppings look ok. I tried Gamba tabs and Tollisan Matrix in her water for 5 days, which seemed to be perking her up, but now she’s gone downhill again, getting occasional tremors and one of the eyes looks a bit ‘off’. She’s eating, had a bath a day or so back, but not recovering.

Looking at all the videos available Chlamydia looks like the most likely, but the water treatment clearly hasn’t done its job. Any ideas?
Not egg bound is she
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PeteDerby wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 pm Hi all

I’ve got a hen bird been struggling for a few weeks now. Hunched up, bit of weight loss but nothing in the mouth or throat, droppings look ok. I tried Gamba tabs and Tollisan Matrix in her water for 5 days, which seemed to be perking her up, but now she’s gone downhill again, getting occasional tremors and one of the eyes looks a bit ‘off’. She’s eating, had a bath a day or so back, but not recovering.

Looking at all the videos available Chlamydia looks like the most likely, but the water treatment clearly hasn’t done its job. Any ideas?
The fact that she is eating is a positive sign. I myself have never used testing. If it's serious you lose precious time waiting on the results. If it was my bird I'd give it a Röhnfried K + K tablet for 5 days. If that doesn't fix her, a course of Chevita chloramphenicol-N
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NeilA wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:27 pm
king wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:17 pm
PeteDerby wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 pm Hi all

I’ve got a hen bird been struggling for a few weeks now. Hunched up, bit of weight loss but nothing in the mouth or throat, droppings look ok. I tried Gamba tabs and Tollisan Matrix in her water for 5 days, which seemed to be perking her up, but now she’s gone downhill again, getting occasional tremors and one of the eyes looks a bit ‘off’. She’s eating, had a bath a day or so back, but not recovering.

Looking at all the videos available Chlamydia looks like the most likely, but the water treatment clearly hasn’t done its job. Any ideas?
The fact that she is eating is a positive sign. I myself have never used testing. If it's serious you lose precious time waiting on the results. If it was my bird I'd give it a Röhnfried K + K tablet for 5 days. If that doesn't fix her, a course of Chevita chloramphenicol-N
What do they treat or do King ?

I think it’s best to have a test kit at home ready to use to save time as king says best to act quick
What Neil the Röhnfried K + K tablets?

If I could have only one pigeon product, it would be these. They are made from readily digestible animal protein. This protein is extracted from top quality blood plasma. I've known fanciers have YBs flown so flown out, they thought the birds would die. In many cases one of these tablets is enough to save the bird. I used to give returning birds from a hard fly one.
I had an old hen go off which wasn't eating. Give her a few days on these tablets and she recovered without any medication.
The new tablets are now gold. I've only ever used the old silver coloured ones.
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NeilA wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:03 pm Yes sorry King the first one
I believe the other is for bacteria infections ? Like we have in eye drops
Yes it is. It's the one Shane used to use. Used to be available from Spain but they stopped selling it. You can get it though a vet though.
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king wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:56 pm
NeilA wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:27 pm
king wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:17 pm

The fact that she is eating is a positive sign. I myself have never used testing. If it's serious you lose precious time waiting on the results. If it was my bird I'd give it a Röhnfried K + K tablet for 5 days. If that doesn't fix her, a course of Chevita chloramphenicol-N
What do they treat or do King ?

I think it’s best to have a test kit at home ready to use to save time as king says best to act quick
What Neil the Röhnfried K + K tablets?

If I could have only one pigeon product, it would be these. They are made from readily digestible animal protein. This protein is extracted from top quality blood plasma. I've known fanciers have YBs flown so flown out, they thought the birds would die. In many cases one of these tablets is enough to save the bird. I used to give returning birds from a hard fly one.
I had an old hen go off which wasn't eating. Give her a few days on these tablets and she recovered without any medication.
The new tablets are now gold. I've only ever used the old silver coloured ones.
Röhnfrieds K+K tablets are a very solid product. I also use these for any bird that comes home late and doesn't get the amino acids and protein from the first drinker. Does absolute wonders for late returning birds and definitely saved me a few times the past 2 years since i been using it.
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Buster121 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:40 am
PeteDerby wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 pm Hi all

I’ve got a hen bird been struggling for a few weeks now. Hunched up, bit of weight loss but nothing in the mouth or throat, droppings look ok. I tried Gamba tabs and Tollisan Matrix in her water for 5 days, which seemed to be perking her up, but now she’s gone downhill again, getting occasional tremors and one of the eyes looks a bit ‘off’. She’s eating, had a bath a day or so back, but not recovering.

Looking at all the videos available Chlamydia looks like the most likely, but the water treatment clearly hasn’t done its job. Any ideas?
Not egg bound is she
Interesting Buster. She went down hill after a hen got into the nest box when she was sitting maybe 7 days and the ensuing fight smashed the eggs.
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Devo1956 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:43 am Well Pete, the only video i could find is on doing a test. I hope it helps you.

https://youtu.be/-2oTlhLFojg?si=44s5e1SBfiqRiO4f
Interesting, thank you. Bit technical for my brain but I did get a test kit through with my meds from Tollisan today so might use that and send it off.
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NeilA wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:50 pm I’m not sure it is chlamydia Pete so maybe get a test but that’s not a £15 job
I think doxycycline is prescribed for it if it is
I had a pigeon reported two years ago 40 miles away a good one flown out I picked it up in awful condition from a non fancier I thought it would be dead by the time I got home or next morning at best
it couldn’t stand dropping like green water
I used amoxicillin and in 3 days it was standing and eating
I got some amoxicillin in powder form. I was hoping for tablets but I think blind treating will be a bit risky. She was eating well again today, but then most of the time hunched and her wings shaking like she was shivering. Wattles clean, throat clear still.

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NeilA wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:52 pm Well if you got a kit and she’s eating then send the kit off
Might come a time why your waiting your have to act
What kind of tests is your kit for ?

Why are you concerned about over dose does your amoxicillin not have instructions or percentages ?
It’s in Thai :D
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