Celibacy system
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Steve Howells
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Last 3 seasons I’ve been playing with a few celibate hens, and been please with them, they won from 70- 500 miles. I used to fly the yearling cock celibate and although they raced ok I used to struggle with them as the races got longer so went back to natural with them.
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Steve Howells
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On the short races there’s no difference, however the yearling cocks didn’t do so well at the distance and I definitely lost more.NeilA wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:54 amI have a friend who flies yearling hens that way the real outstanding ones stay so he may pick 2/3 out for the next year his view is it works best with yearling hens the rest are used for his widowhood cocks with fresh yearling hens becoming the celibacy teamSteve Howells wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:05 am Last 3 seasons I’ve been playing with a few celibate hens, and been please with them, they won from 70- 500 miles. I used to fly the yearling cock celibate and although they raced ok I used to struggle with them as the races got longer so went back to natural with them.
How did the loses with the yearling cocks go Steve or was there no difference to normal
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Anthony webster
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2018
Team of widowhood cocks
Team of widowhood hens
Team of celibacy hens
14 races 10x1st 8x1st with celibacy hens including 3x1st feds n 1,2,3 section mnfc 3,5,8 open
2023
14 celibacy hens
10 races 8x1st 3x1st open never once out of first 10 in fed ,
Celibacy hens is best system iv ever raced my self so easy with such good results.
Team of widowhood cocks
Team of widowhood hens
Team of celibacy hens
14 races 10x1st 8x1st with celibacy hens including 3x1st feds n 1,2,3 section mnfc 3,5,8 open
2023
14 celibacy hens
10 races 8x1st 3x1st open never once out of first 10 in fed ,
Celibacy hens is best system iv ever raced my self so easy with such good results.
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Steve Howells
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No I used to race them to a section on there own to a perch. In hindsight I think they exercised to hard and I fed them on too lighter corn for them to be effective at the longer races.NeilA wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:47 amSteve can I ask were the yearling cock true celibacy or did you allow any bonding post raceSteve Howells wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:30 pmOn the short races there’s no difference, however the yearling cocks didn’t do so well at the distance and I definitely lost more.NeilA wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:54 am
I have a friend who flies yearling hens that way the real outstanding ones stay so he may pick 2/3 out for the next year his view is it works best with yearling hens the rest are used for his widowhood cocks with fresh yearling hens becoming the celibacy team
How did the loses with the yearling cocks go Steve or was there no difference to normal
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Steve Howells
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Back in the old pigeon chat days there was a guy from Essex Terry I think his name was used to rave about how good the system was , shame the old pages aren’t available.NeilA wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 10:06 am Anyone got any information on flying the cocks this way maybe videos on you tube not the McLaughlin ones
I think in Australia and New Zealand they use the system a fair bit
I had a very good friend who died last year that was a loft manager/ helper for fanciers very well know in London he was telling me I’m wasting my time with all the total widowhood of parting pigeons off etc even when I was was in the top 10 of the fed each week he said they can go up a level not stressing them
He said just pair them in January let them sit out or have ybs as it made no difference
Then take the hens away
They never get to see each other for rest of the season , no show cage trick or basket no bowls nothing
I thought how will the cocks sprint for a season like that but he felt there fitness was far improved and no stress for the cocks I know they won 7 feds one year in old birds on it
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Anthony webster
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Terry Mccarthy from Tilbury
Flew in south of Thames fed good flyer Terry n he's wife tina ,,
Flew in south of Thames fed good flyer Terry n he's wife tina ,,
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Steve Howells
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That’s him just couldn’t remember his last name. From what I remember he reckoned the ones that went gay were the bestAnthony webster wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 12:56 pm Terry Mccarthy from Tilbury
Flew in south of Thames fed good flyer Terry n he's wife tina ,,
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Anthony webster
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Iv flown all the systems
All I know is no matter what system you race when I'm motivated the birds seem to do there best.
All I know is no matter what system you race when I'm motivated the birds seem to do there best.
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Anthony webster
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Terry never flew celibacy he flew them parted with loads of motivation each Friday, but the highest prize winner in he's club was Stuart ager who flew natural n trained 30 miles each day ,,
the man who flew true celibacy was a Welsh man who passed away use to be on pigeon chats forgotten he's full name but part of it was Owen.
the man who flew true celibacy was a Welsh man who passed away use to be on pigeon chats forgotten he's full name but part of it was Owen.
