Re: Ways to reduce need for antibiotics
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:27 am
Good information Neil cheers.
https://www.ukpigeonracing.co.uk/community/
https://www.ukpigeonracing.co.uk/community/viewtopic.php?t=1935
Think it will be part of my system from what I've seen in just a couple of days, I've not used it in the bath water yet so will see what difference it has on the feathering.MIke Lycett wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:16 pm When I was breeding Dave I can't say I used it in the drinker, but certainly the birds had access to it via the bath water
Pigeons happily drink the Virkon.. I always monitored them closely.
You can still get Amprolum in fact Harkers coxoid is Amprolum. Years go they used to add it to growers pellets. Must have been 40 odd years ago now, one season I feed 50% of these pellets and had my first good years racing winning a few 1sts. Thing I’ve found with coccidiosis you can’t eradicate it, it’s not like worms. Even after using Baycox there’s still been a low count, the count can even change during the day. Traditional disinfectants won’t kill the oocysts so re infection is a certainty. I’ve often thought of using Aprollum at half dose daily for the racing season to see what would happen. Presently I’ll only treat if there’s a sustained increase over several day, (don’t waste your money on the one treatment tablets they have little effect).keeping the loft dry is a big factor.NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:37 am Would the Amprolum part of regular system Steve in order to deal with cocci as you described or just when you notice an increased cocci level
If it was freely available like in the past
Hi Steve and all members...this is my ist posting on site although i look in every day...re amprolium my ist time using this product was back in 1980 if memory serves me right after a visit to a vets just outside of blackpool ...he took a smear of one of the eyes of my bird by placing the glass slide direct on the eye result cocci and prescribed amprolium for thirty days....yes thirty days it was the consistency of fairy liquid one cap full to a drinker and did a good job although long winded...so always after that thought the few days treatment was maybe just a regulator ....dont remember it being added to corn but you may be mixing it up with emtryl that was in pellets for chickens ....alanSteve Howells wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:46 amYou can still get Amprolum in fact Harkers coxoid is Amprolum. Years go they used to add it to growers pellets. Must have been 40 odd years ago now, one season I feed 50% of these pellets and had my first good years racing winning a few 1sts. Thing I’ve found with coccidiosis you can’t eradicate it, it’s not like worms. Even after using Baycox there’s still been a low count, the count can even change during the day. Traditional disinfectants won’t kill the oocysts so re infection is a certainty. I’ve often thought of using Aprollum at half dose daily for the racing season to see what would happen. Presently I’ll only treat if there’s a sustained increase over several day, (don’t waste your money on the one treatment tablets they have little effect).keeping the loft dry is a big factor.NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:37 am Would the Amprolum part of regular system Steve in order to deal with cocci as you described or just when you notice an increased cocci level
If it was freely available like in the past
Hi Alanjustalad982 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:02 amHi Steve and all members...this is my ist posting on site although i look in every day...re amprolium my ist time using this product was back in 1980 if memory serves me right after a visit to a vets just outside of blackpool ...he took a smear of one of the eyes of my bird by placing the glass slide direct on the eye result cocci and prescribed amprolium for thirty days....yes thirty days it was the consistency of fairy liquid one cap full to a drinker and did a good job although long winded...so always after that thought the few days treatment was maybe just a regulator ....dont remember it being added to corn but you may be mixing it up with emtryl that was in pellets for chickens ....alanSteve Howells wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:46 amYou can still get Amprolum in fact Harkers coxoid is Amprolum. Years go they used to add it to growers pellets. Must have been 40 odd years ago now, one season I feed 50% of these pellets and had my first good years racing winning a few 1sts. Thing I’ve found with coccidiosis you can’t eradicate it, it’s not like worms. Even after using Baycox there’s still been a low count, the count can even change during the day. Traditional disinfectants won’t kill the oocysts so re infection is a certainty. I’ve often thought of using Aprollum at half dose daily for the racing season to see what would happen. Presently I’ll only treat if there’s a sustained increase over several day, (don’t waste your money on the one treatment tablets they have little effect).keeping the loft dry is a big factor.NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:37 am Would the Amprolum part of regular system Steve in order to deal with cocci as you described or just when you notice an increased cocci level
If it was freely available like in the past
Yes Steve it was for black spot....they stopped adding stuff some time back...Steve Howells wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:05 pmHi Alanjustalad982 wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:02 amHi Steve and all members...this is my ist posting on site although i look in every day...re amprolium my ist time using this product was back in 1980 if memory serves me right after a visit to a vets just outside of blackpool ...he took a smear of one of the eyes of my bird by placing the glass slide direct on the eye result cocci and prescribed amprolium for thirty days....yes thirty days it was the consistency of fairy liquid one cap full to a drinker and did a good job although long winded...so always after that thought the few days treatment was maybe just a regulator ....dont remember it being added to corn but you may be mixing it up with emtryl that was in pellets for chickens ....alanSteve Howells wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:46 am
You can still get Amprolum in fact Harkers coxoid is Amprolum. Years go they used to add it to growers pellets. Must have been 40 odd years ago now, one season I feed 50% of these pellets and had my first good years racing winning a few 1sts. Thing I’ve found with coccidiosis you can’t eradicate it, it’s not like worms. Even after using Baycox there’s still been a low count, the count can even change during the day. Traditional disinfectants won’t kill the oocysts so re infection is a certainty. I’ve often thought of using Aprollum at half dose daily for the racing season to see what would happen. Presently I’ll only treat if there’s a sustained increase over several day, (don’t waste your money on the one treatment tablets they have little effect).keeping the loft dry is a big factor.
Thanks for the replying it was definitely Amprolium added to the pellets. Did they used to add emtril to turkey pellets for black spot?
A pigeon will handle worse for having a bath as you are washing it's bloom off. Nothing you can add to the bath will make it handle better. You can't change a birds feather type. It's either course or silky. If it's course 'natural' condition will improve it, but not to the extent of making silky. Natural silky feathered birds will always handle better than a course feathered one.CHARLTON34 wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:21 pm I only tried it in the bath water this morning so not really sure, maybe after I've used it a few times then I can gauge if they feel handle different .