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Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:31 pm
by Steve Howells
MIke Lycett wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:55 pm
When I was racing I never ever treated for Paratyphoid
A friend messaged me this morning, and he's never treated for it before either - but is now considering it
What's people's thoughts on the positives/negatives of this?
If he’s had a problem with paratyphoid then I’d say treat and vaccinate, if not I’d leave alone. Having had paratyphoid in the late 80’s I can tell you it has a devastating effect on the loft, and clearing the flock of it isn’t easy treating and vaccinating is no guarantee. I’d get them tested and go from there.
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:34 pm
by Anthony webster
Iv never had it and for £100 of treatment it puts my mind at peace lads.
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:12 am
by MIke Lycett
Steve Howells wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:31 pm
If he’s had a problem with paratyphoid then I’d say treat and vaccinate, if not I’d leave alone. Having had paratyphoid in the late 80’s I can tell you it has a devastating effect on the loft, and clearing the flock of it isn’t easy treating and vaccinating is no guarantee. I’d get them tested and go from there.
He's never had an issue with it. He's just a lad that tries to do his best for his birds and thinks that this is a base he's not covered before
I think for peace of mind its worth running with
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:15 am
by NeilA
Anthony webster wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:07 pm
I treat each year after moult sometimes use vaccine afterwards or paracontrol boost
It's my worse fear in pigeons.
What would you use to treat bind with I have only use the Belgica product parastop mostly
I did try a liquid one last year but I can’t remember the brand now
Never know if it’s any good though
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:50 am
by NeilA
MIke Lycett wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:55 pm
When I was racing I never ever treated for Paratyphoid
A friend messaged me this morning, and he's never treated for it before either - but is now considering it
What's people's thoughts on the positives/negatives of this?
Is it possible to have carriers and it never break out to a full blown issue in the loft or if you have carriers does it always come out in the team
I mean could say someone have 10 carriers but no visible problems so they would still be racing but maybe just behind each week
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:52 am
by MIke Lycett
I'm not an authority on it, but sounds perfectly feasible to me
Some lads are behind most weeks without really wondering "why" ?
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 7:12 am
by NeilA
MIke Lycett wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:52 am
I'm not an authority on it, but sounds perfectly feasible to me
Some lads are behind most weeks without really wondering "why" ?
That’s what I was thinking mate
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:18 am
by Diamond Dave
NeilA wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:15 am
Anthony webster wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:07 pm
I treat each year after moult sometimes use vaccine afterwards or paracontrol boost
It's my worse fear in pigeons.
What would you use to treat bind with I have only use the Belgica product parastop mostly
I did try a liquid one last year but I can’t remember the brand now
Never know if it’s any good though
Yep it was Parastop that he prescribed to me and the name of the vet was Henk De Weerdt. Had to give it for a prolonged treatment think it might of been 21 days.
Not had a "black egg" since so presume it cleared it up.
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:39 am
by NeilA
Cheers Dave
Re: Paratyphoid
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:24 am
by Steve Howells
NeilA wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:50 am
MIke Lycett wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:55 pm
When I was racing I never ever treated for Paratyphoid
A friend messaged me this morning, and he's never treated for it before either - but is now considering it
What's people's thoughts on the positives/negatives of this?
Is it possible to have carriers and it never break out to a full blown issue in the loft or if you have carriers does it always come out in the team
I mean could say someone have 10 carriers but no visible problems so they would still be racing but maybe just behind each week
From my experience with it I think it unlikely you’d have carries but go the year round with no symptoms. It’s such an insidious disease, even in an outbreak the majority of birds seem ok it just works its way through them slowly. When I had it in the Autumn of ( 88 I think) they recovered and looked fine. The following breeding season not 1 single youngster from the 8 pairs survived.