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Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:56 pm
by NeilA
Never vaccinated before for it king
Rp was my first time this year
Pha I had in mind next not pox
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:02 pm
by MIL
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:29 pm
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:00 pmWrong
Have you proof of this Mike? Pox has never really been a problem for fanciers, the last outbreak in my area was in 1980. Outbreaks are mostly now caused by fanciers vaccinating with the live vaccine and NOT confining their birds in the loft until they stop shredding the virus.
Yes
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:33 pm
by NeilA
Andy wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:55 pm
Albert wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:50 pm
I have experienced it twice in thirty years, 12 years in between infections. In both instances I let it run its course, the first instance was in Y/Bs and I actively spread it through the whole loft, and lost two birds. The second time I had it in the Old birds, but only a few contracted it. I had to obviously stop racing, but once the birds have had it, they then have immunity to it, and any bird that doesn't catch it has a built in immunity. At the time I never considered it a big problem, although it is horrible to look at in your loft.
It’s the same with paramyxovirus Albert. I only vaccinate for this because we have too otherwise I wouldn’t bother. I have had it a couple of times. Yes the lofts a mess while it goes through the birds, some get the screwy necks, but I only lost the odd ones on each occasion and never any of the better birds. I even had one with the screwy neck that flew Poitiers 343 miles with the BICC a couple of months after recovering.
Was the one that flew the bicc after para vaccinated before he /she caught it
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:50 pm
by wynands56
you cant buy a vaccine anymore in uk its even been taken of the veterinary medicine directive pox is as rare as hens teeth excuse the pun
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:08 pm
by NeilA
wynands56 wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:50 pm
you cant buy a vaccine anymore in uk its even been taken of the veterinary medicine directive pox is as rare as hens teeth excuse the pun
You can get it though can’t you ?
Like the rp pha vaccines
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:49 pm
by NeilA
So she was vaccinated and still caught the virus
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:17 am
by king
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:02 pm
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:29 pm
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:00 pmWrong
Have you proof of this Mike? Pox has never really been a problem for fanciers, the last outbreak in my area was in 1980. Outbreaks are mostly now caused by fanciers vaccinating with the live vaccine and NOT confining their birds in the loft until they stop shredding the virus.
Yes
Can you elaborate on the outbreak Mike?
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:44 am
by MIL
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:45 pm
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:54 am
Pigeon Pox is rife in the West Midlands
Probably caused by a fancier vaccinating against it.
King - I found this comment (above) ill informed and highly deflammatory
A friend of mine has a cousin who races pigeons
He contacted my friend to see if he could help what was wrong with his birds
My friend doesn't live all that close to him so he sent him a couple of videos across
On receipt of these he could tell it was pox
This is in the OB team that have been racing this year and won 6 x 1st
Only thing vaccinated for was paramyxo in March
The doors have been shut and he's now letting it runs its course
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:52 am
by Buster121
MIL wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:44 am
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:45 pm
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:54 am
Pigeon Pox is rife in the West Midlands
Probably caused by a fancier vaccinating against it.
King - I found this comment (above) ill informed and highly deflammatory
A friend of mine has a cousin who races pigeons
He contacted my friend to see if he could help what was wrong with his birds
My friend doesn't live all that close to him so he sent him a couple of videos across
On receipt of these he could tell it was pox
This is in the OB team that have been racing this year and won 6 x 1st
Only thing vaccinated for was paramyxo in March
The doors have been shut and he's now letting it runs its course
But they could of mixed with birds who had got it, think that is what King was saying and not inferring anything else
Re: Watch Out Watch Out
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:06 pm
by king
MIL wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:44 am
king wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:45 pm
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:54 am
Pigeon Pox is rife in the West Midlands
Probably caused by a fancier vaccinating against it.
King - I found this comment (above) ill informed and highly deflammatory
A friend of mine has a cousin who races pigeons
He contacted my friend to see if he could help what was wrong with his birds
My friend doesn't live all that close to him so he sent him a couple of videos across
On receipt of these he could tell it was pox
This is in the OB team that have been racing this year and won 6 x 1st
Only thing vaccinated for was paramyxo in March
The doors have been shut and he's now letting it runs its course
Mike the comment was neither ill informed or highly deflammatory. I said 'probably caused' as any loft can only get Pox either by bringing in an already infected bird, or a race bird bringing it home. So somebody else in the Club or Fed MUST have it also. They too can only have got it the same two ways. And since Pox is very rare there is the 3rd option. That is somebody has vaccinated and NOT kept their birds in while they are shedding the virus.