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[king]

Pigeon Pox is rife in the West Midlands

Probably caused by a fancier vaccinating against it.

[king]

Wrong

Have you proof of this Mike? Pox has never really been a problem for fanciers, the last outbreak in my area was in 1980. Outbreaks are mostly now caused by fanciers vaccinating with the live vaccine and NOT confining their birds in the loft until they stop shredding the virus.

[Buster121]

Wrong

Have you proof of this Mike? Pox has never really been a problem for fanciers, the last outbreak in my area was in 1980. Outbreaks are mostly now caused by fanciers vaccinating with the live vaccine and NOT confining their birds in the loft until they stop shredding the virus.

Mine always stayed in for minimum 14 days after using the combined POX vaccination, if I remember correctly 14 days was stated in the instructions

[Albert]

I have experienced it twice in thirty years, 12 years in between infections. In both instances I let it run its course, the first instance was in Y/Bs and I actively spread it through the whole loft, and lost two birds. The second time I had it in the Old birds, but only a few contracted it. I had to obviously stop racing, but once the birds have had it, they then have immunity to it, and any bird that doesn't catch it has a built in immunity. At the time I never considered it a big problem, although it is horrible to look at in your loft.

[king]

I have experienced it twice in thirty years, 12 years in between infections. In both instances I let it run its course, the first instance was in Y/Bs and I actively spread it through the whole loft, and lost two birds. The second time I had it in the Old birds, but only a few contracted it. I had to obviously stop racing, but once the birds have had it, they then have immunity to it, and any bird that doesn't catch it has a built in immunity. At the time I never considered it a big problem, although it is horrible to look at in your loft.

Yes my club had an outbreak in 1980 in YBs as you say it wasn't a big deal. Only a few of my 20 ybs showed signs of it. Some fanciers panicked and vaccinated for it, the one where you pull a few feathers out and brush the vaccine into the feather follicles. If you kept an eye on your birds it was fine. It was best to get it on the outside of the mouth or eye cere. Some got it on their feet. If they got it inside of the mouth it needed watching. And in the worst case it had to be removed and a dab of iodine put on, if this was done it took a bit longer to get over it. The majority of birds got over it without any help.
If fanciers didn't vaccinate for it 99% of outbreaks wouldn't happen.

[king]

See what Mike says when he’s back on he’s the man who would know what’s best to do

Fanciers have 2 options. Either they vaccinate and lock their birds up for 2 weeks or hope their area is not effected (the chance of which is very low)
But if you vaccinate you may still miss some races anyway, as any area that has an outbreak should stop racing.

[wynands56]

you cant buy a vaccine anymore in uk its even been taken of the veterinary medicine directive pox is as rare as hens teeth excuse the pun

[king]

Wrong

Have you proof of this Mike? Pox has never really been a problem for fanciers, the last outbreak in my area was in 1980. Outbreaks are mostly now caused by fanciers vaccinating with the live vaccine and NOT confining their birds in the loft until they stop shredding the virus.

Yes

Can you elaborate on the outbreak Mike?

[Buster121]

Pigeon Pox is rife in the West Midlands

Probably caused by a fancier vaccinating against it.

King - I found this comment (above) ill informed and highly deflammatory


A friend of mine has a cousin who races pigeons
He contacted my friend to see if he could help what was wrong with his birds
My friend doesn't live all that close to him so he sent him a couple of videos across
On receipt of these he could tell it was pox
This is in the OB team that have been racing this year and won 6 x 1st
Only thing vaccinated for was paramyxo in March
The doors have been shut and he's now letting it runs its course

But they could of mixed with birds who had got it, think that is what King was saying and not inferring anything else

[king]

Pigeon Pox is rife in the West Midlands

Probably caused by a fancier vaccinating against it.

King - I found this comment (above) ill informed and highly deflammatory


A friend of mine has a cousin who races pigeons
He contacted my friend to see if he could help what was wrong with his birds
My friend doesn't live all that close to him so he sent him a couple of videos across
On receipt of these he could tell it was pox
This is in the OB team that have been racing this year and won 6 x 1st
Only thing vaccinated for was paramyxo in March
The doors have been shut and he's now letting it runs its course

Mike the comment was neither ill informed or highly deflammatory. I said 'probably caused' as any loft can only get Pox either by bringing in an already infected bird, or a race bird bringing it home. So somebody else in the Club or Fed MUST have it also. They too can only have got it the same two ways. And since Pox is very rare there is the 3rd option. That is somebody has vaccinated and NOT kept their birds in while they are shedding the virus.