The birds are not what i bought?

[Devo1956]

A good idea Buster, but not for me i have different plans mate.

[Tony-P-]

We all have our own ways of doing things, I know this from past with keeping different birds over the years, but we live and learn every day.
I look after 80 Joinery Apprentices over 2 to 3 years of their life most straight from school into their working life, and yes some come to me knowing it all or so they think.
But after 2 to 3 years and they have qualified they have also grown up from boy to man, which is great to see they look at life with different eyes and most can see that you have to work hard to get the best out of life.
My point being is I look at myself as the Apprentice here on this forum but with many different mentors and I am hoping that in 2 to 3 years I will also have moved on in the pigeon world and be able to see things differently and maybe have some success, you all have your ways of doing thing and I will pick up pointers from all of you, try things out if they work for me and my birds great if they don't I will try again with something else.
Thanks to all of you on here for the help, support and tips you have given me so far

[Diamond Dave]

Ha ha. I have been an apprentice pigeon man for about 18 years Tony and still don't know half enough.

[Tony-P-]

Ha ha. I have been an apprentice pigeon man for about 18 years Tony and still don't know half enough.

o well I still have many years to go then from what you have said.

[Buster121]

Ha ha. I have been an apprentice pigeon man for about 18 years Tony and still don't know half enough.

Even after 50 years you will still be learning , because we never stop learning as they say every day is a school day

[Murray]

Yep, I first had pigeons 60 years ago, and I still keep learning from them.
One of the biggest pleasures.

[Wiley]

We all have our own ways of doing things, I know this from past with keeping different birds over the years, but we live and learn every day.
I look after 80 Joinery Apprentices over 2 to 3 years of their life most straight from school into their working life, and yes some come to me knowing it all or so they think.
But after 2 to 3 years and they have qualified they have also grown up from boy to man, which is great to see they look at life with different eyes and most can see that you have to work hard to get the best out of life.
My point being is I look at myself as the Apprentice here on this forum but with many different mentors and I am hoping that in 2 to 3 years I will also have moved on in the pigeon world and be able to see things differently and maybe have some success, you all have your ways of doing thing and I will pick up pointers from all of you, try things out if they work for me and my birds great if they don't I will try again with something else.
Thanks to all of you on here for the help, support and tips you have given me so far

Tony, some advice from my dad has always been `do your own thing', what I will caveat this too is advice from my old friend Frank Tasker 'if it sounds logical stick to it, don't chop and change, if it's logical it will come right'.

Worse thing you can do in season, is chopping and changing your ideas due to something you've read, or watched or heard someone say down the club.

We are all apprentices in this game and everyday is definitely a school day.

[Diamond Dave]

[quote=Wiley

Tony, some advice from my dad has always been `do your own thing', what I will caveat this too is advice from my old friend Frank Tasker 'if it sounds logical stick to it, don't chop and change, if it's logical it will come right'.

Worse thing you can do in season, is chopping and changing your ideas due to something you've read, or watched or heard someone say down the club.

We are all apprentices in this game and everyday is definitely a school day.
[/quote]

Wiley, again mate I wouldn't question any of your advice and I am only asking to better my knowledge.
I have heard this said many times about not changing things through out the season but then don't know if I am doing the right thing by switching from roundabout to natural for the distance. I can seem to get my birds fit using the roundabout system then pair up and let them lay when the races get beyond 500 miles.

[jack walker]

Hi Dave why do you have to race round a bout, or natural, if you can get them fit and have the set up have you thought about the chaos system. The staddons race this system from the same sort of distances you are targeting. I race this system to me it is similar to round a bout i race from Wakefield to Thurso on this system. Just got to get the birds for Lerwick and they will race from there on this system cheers Jack

[Wiley]

[quote=Wiley

Tony, some advice from my dad has always been `do your own thing', what I will caveat this too is advice from my old friend Frank Tasker 'if it sounds logical stick to it, don't chop and change, if it's logical it will come right'.

Worse thing you can do in season, is chopping and changing your ideas due to something you've read, or watched or heard someone say down the club.

We are all apprentices in this game and everyday is definitely a school day.

Wiley, again mate I wouldn't question any of your advice and I am only asking to better my knowledge.
I have heard this said many times about not changing things through out the season but then don't know if I am doing the right thing by switching from roundabout to natural for the distance. I can seem to get my birds fit using the roundabout system then pair up and let them lay when the races get beyond 500 miles.
[/quote]

Hi Dave

Pairing up for the distance i wouldn't call chopping and changing things for both of my London North Road Combine wins at 510 miles and 599 miles, and 11th open BICC international I done the same and had the two hens on 8 day eggs.

When I talk about switching things up I'm talking about feeding systems, routines etc.