Breeding barless pigeons

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Devo1956 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2026 12:03 am A question King, did any of your barless race well. If they did, how was their performance.?
Man in the club I used to race in he did ok with his barless, until I seen his had never seen one before
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Devo1956 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2026 1:02 am
king wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2026 12:51 am
Devo1956 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2026 12:03 am A question King, did any of your barless race well. If they did, how was their performance.?
I got 2 barless blues from Matt White in 1983. Can remember picking BOTH up reported 30 miles away some 2 miles apart. Does that answer your question :lol:
Matt had them for years and got his to fly 1,000 miles. Mine not so far.
Yes it does King, so Matt did very well with them. I read reports some did over 1000 miles. Thank you for reply.
Came across an old photo of Matt Whites birds. Image
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Buster121 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2026 12:59 pm Love the barless, good share mate
What colour would this be called then lads - would it come in the barless category:-
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Diamond Dave wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2026 10:19 am
Buster121 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2026 12:59 pm Love the barless, good share mate
What colour would this be called then lads - would it come in the barless category:-
(Hope I can get the photo up)
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I would say the bars are visible, but possibly influenced by the sooty(?) gene.

But having said that I am absolutely not an expert in anyway!!

Would guess it'll be more obvious after the full moult!

What were the parents btw?
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Cheers Matt.
The parents are a heavily splashed red cheq cock
and a black grizzle hen.
This one belongs to a mate of mine but both are off the same grandparents.
We was only comparing them the other day.
Interesting that they both have the odd black feathers but both look like hens to me...???
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this is off a friend that was put in a auction for our transporter funds hes bred winners and come through from lots of good winners from s foster Cyril and Karl lambrect
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you can make out faint bars though
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There all ash spread. LPW sell theirs as barless mealies in their Faroes family, but again they are all Ash spreads. A true barless mealy looks like a normal mealy without the bars.
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Good to ser you back posting worm. Hope all is well mate.

Do you know the colour of the parents to thst one.?
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king wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:10 pm There all ash spread. LPW sell theirs as barless mealies in their Faroes family, but again they are all Ash spreads. A true barless mealy looks like a normal mealy without the bars.
King, with regard to " black splashing" is there a difference in the birds genes between feathers that are generally red but have black smudges and feathers that are entirely black.
Hope that question makes sense.
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