That's great Neil thank youNeilA wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 11:30 am Anthony is the boy for this so I can only go on my old way that worked for me and for the last 7 years I based it on 3g a hour
The first 1/2 hour they need no fats or enough that’s in most mixtures
Every hour after you need fat is always used 3g per hour in my method
So your feeding 35g Wednesday
You need probably 2 1/2 hours fly
So you need 2 hours on fat 1/2 hour on carbs
So you want 6g fat on Wednesday to Thursday morning ( 3 hours)
If you had say 3 gerry 1 VL energy believe from memory that a combined fat percentage of 14 pc if gerry is still 10pc VL energy 26pc
14pc of your 35g is 4.9 pc fat
But you need 6g
So either just increase that to about 35pc VL energy or run it to Thursday morning but not evening or in future start it Tuesday
Or add a little oil like sunflower but that can make the dropping a little damp
When I use oil I keep a little barley in the mix for fibre
So it’s always the combined fat in the mix you make not the percentage of fat the bag when people buy 25 pc energy in they say I fed 25pc fats but they are not there feeding 25 pc from a bag based on fats
If you have something like beyers energy and that’s maybe 15per cent fat then it’s the same calculation but obviously the amount from that bag would need to increase to hit the target
If you made your own with hemp sunflower peanuts that would be about 40pc fat ( roughly ) so you would add less
I have a simple chart made up so it’s there to look at each week pinned up
Easy to do just base it on 3g fat a hours and work back on the days for the hours predicted
It can still go wrong with a wind change which is why keeping Thursday morning clear is a smart idea like Anthony says you can keep that spare
One thing to remember is to add on the fat for the daily work in the week if they fly a hour there using 1.5g so don’t include that in the load sums for Saturday
If your training a hour twice a day that’s 4.5g off your loading as they have used that
Like I say that worked great for me upto 300 miles
I used it last year at 412 miles and had 5 in 43 min all yearlings on a 1290 vel but that could well have been a total fluke as I haven’t t got a clue over 280 miles
I use a mix of black rape, hemp and peanuts so I'll add this to the gerry base that I use but scale it back
I'll do some calcs but roughly a handful of that mix before the main feed should be enough
Thanks for all the good info mate very much appreciated
