Droppings and breeding off yearlings

[PeteDerby]

I need to tap into the collective wisdom if I may. Droppings have all of a sudden gotten wet. Not been out since September so not mixed with anything, not paired yet. Only thing that’s changed is I took a delivery of depurative a couple of days ago and so I took them off moulting mix to the depurative until I pair. Would that do it?

Whether it’s connected across 2 lofts and 8 sections I don’t know, but I’ve stuck one of the hens in quarantine this evening as she was sat hunched up. Body weight fine, nothing in the throat, but when I set her on my hand to flutter down she just dropped without flapping her wings. Something told me she wouldn’t be around in the morning. The rest of the birds look superb.

Second point, I wasn’t intending to breed off my yearlings (my only race birds), but a chap at the club this weekend said that yearling hens usually produce their best round. Not heard that before so I thought I’d ask you guys.

[PeteDerby]

Theres an incredible amount of great pigeons been bred from yearlings Pete

If i had to take only one pair out of an evenly matched 3 year old and a yearling I’d always go yearling

Thanks Mike.

[PeteDerby]

Theres an incredible amount of great pigeons been bred from yearlings Pete

If i had to take only one pair out of an evenly matched 3 year old and a yearling I’d always go yearling

Thanks Mike.

[PeteDerby]

I need to tap into the collective wisdom if I may. Droppings have all of a sudden gotten wet. Not been out since September so not mixed with anything, not paired yet. Only thing that’s changed is I took a delivery of depurative a couple of days ago and so I took them off moulting mix to the depurative until I pair. Would that do it?

Whether it’s connected across 2 lofts and 8 sections I don’t know, but I’ve stuck one of the hens in quarantine this evening as she was sat hunched up. Body weight fine, nothing in the throat, but when I set her on my hand to flutter down she just dropped without flapping her wings. Something told me she wouldn’t be around in the morning. The rest of the birds look superb.

Second point, I wasn’t intending to breed off my yearlings (my only race birds), but a chap at the club this weekend said that yearling hens usually produce their best round. Not heard that before so I thought I’d ask you guys.

I don’t think that’s the change of corn Pete as barley is full of fibre
Best dropping I get are 2 parts barley 1 part beans


Anything new in the water are they drinking the same ?

Can you get hold of amoxicillin?

I can get hold of anything to be honest but I’m not wanting to go down the route of applying antibiotics every time something happens. I’ve been told I’m on a hiding to nothing taking that view, but for me I’d rather understand the root cause and prevent it in the future if possible Neil.

[PeteDerby]

I need to tap into the collective wisdom if I may. Droppings have all of a sudden gotten wet. Not been out since September so not mixed with anything, not paired yet. Only thing that’s changed is I took a delivery of depurative a couple of days ago and so I took them off moulting mix to the depurative until I pair. Would that do it?

Whether it’s connected across 2 lofts and 8 sections I don’t know, but I’ve stuck one of the hens in quarantine this evening as she was sat hunched up. Body weight fine, nothing in the throat, but when I set her on my hand to flutter down she just dropped without flapping her wings. Something told me she wouldn’t be around in the morning. The rest of the birds look superb.

Second point, I wasn’t intending to breed off my yearlings (my only race birds), but a chap at the club this weekend said that yearling hens usually produce their best round. Not heard that before so I thought I’d ask you guys.

I don’t think that’s the change of corn Pete as barley is full of fibre
Best dropping I get are 2 parts barley 1 part beans


Anything new in the water are they drinking the same ?

Can you get hold of amoxicillin?

I can get hold of anything to be honest but I’m not wanting to go down the route of applying antibiotics every time something happens. I’ve been told I’m on a hiding to nothing taking that view, but for me I’d rather understand the root cause and prevent it in the future if possible Neil.

And the drink routine is the same every week. Plain water, ACV, Oregano, Tollyamin med forte on specified days. Been like that since they weaned.

[PeteDerby]

If the hens dropping to the floor pretty much I would use antibiotics if I wanted her
When you say when something happens i understand that but your team have wet dropping could you post a photo of them
Have you tested for cocci ?
How wet are they can you see solids and wet separated or compact but mushy

I’ll check tomorrow and see. Last weds the guy I bought my stock birds off called in for a visit - he was very complementary how well they all looked including the droppings. 5 days later I’m noticing a change and the only thing I’ve done differently is the feed.

I will report back

[justalad982]

I need to tap into the collective wisdom if I may. Droppings have all of a sudden gotten wet. Not been out since September so not mixed with anything, not paired yet. Only thing that’s changed is I took a delivery of depurative a couple of days ago and so I took them off moulting mix to the depurative until I pair. Would that do it?

Whether it’s connected across 2 lofts and 8 sections I don’t know, but I’ve stuck one of the hens in quarantine this evening as she was sat hunched up. Body weight fine, nothing in the throat, but when I set her on my hand to flutter down she just dropped without flapping her wings. Something told me she wouldn’t be around in the morning. The rest of the birds look superb.

Second point, I wasn’t intending to breed off my yearlings (my only race birds), but a chap at the club this weekend said that yearling hens usually produce their best round. Not heard that before so I thought I’d ask you guys.

Pete...by any chance have you left grit pots out in your loft.. this weather of late has been very damp n causes all sorts of problems if it gets into the grit...

[Steve Howells]

I need to tap into the collective wisdom if I may. Droppings have all of a sudden gotten wet. Not been out since September so not mixed with anything, not paired yet. Only thing that’s changed is I took a delivery of depurative a couple of days ago and so I took them off moulting mix to the depurative until I pair. Would that do it?

Whether it’s connected across 2 lofts and 8 sections I don’t know, but I’ve stuck one of the hens in quarantine this evening as she was sat hunched up. Body weight fine, nothing in the throat, but when I set her on my hand to flutter down she just dropped without flapping her wings. Something told me she wouldn’t be around in the morning. The rest of the birds look superb.

Second point, I wasn’t intending to breed off my yearlings (my only race birds), but a chap at the club this weekend said that yearling hens usually produce their best round. Not heard that before so I thought I’d ask you guys.

Obviously there’s something up with the hen, if she were mine I’d just remove her, in all the years I’ve had pigeons I can’t ever remember having a tidy one that I had to patch up. As for the rest how wet are the droppings? The weather here in the last few days has gone from dry and cold to wet and mild and often when the humidity changes suddenly the droppings can go a little soft.

Id have no hesitation breeding off the yearlings.

[PeteDerby]

I need to tap into the collective wisdom if I may. Droppings have all of a sudden gotten wet. Not been out since September so not mixed with anything, not paired yet. Only thing that’s changed is I took a delivery of depurative a couple of days ago and so I took them off moulting mix to the depurative until I pair. Would that do it?

Whether it’s connected across 2 lofts and 8 sections I don’t know, but I’ve stuck one of the hens in quarantine this evening as she was sat hunched up. Body weight fine, nothing in the throat, but when I set her on my hand to flutter down she just dropped without flapping her wings. Something told me she wouldn’t be around in the morning. The rest of the birds look superb.

Second point, I wasn’t intending to breed off my yearlings (my only race birds), but a chap at the club this weekend said that yearling hens usually produce their best round. Not heard that before so I thought I’d ask you guys.

Pete...by any chance have you left grit pots out in your loft.. this weather of late has been very damp n causes all sorts of problems if it gets into the grit...

I was wondering about those. I put small amounts in each and change them out weekly.

When I checked the sections out this morning I thought most droppings were still good, so maybe my loft guy was exaggerating somewhat. The one that’s sick it’s obvious - they’re green and liquid (not watery). She still handles well weight-wise but is just lethargic. I gave her another Tony’s Treasure Tablet and kept her in sick bay.

There are some loose droppings in the cocks sections - a bit like when they were dropping their last flights and that came good again.

They are deffo ready for pairing as some of them are pairing together (cocks with cocks / hens with hens ). I’ve had my funky lights on for 2 weeks ready to pair after this weekend so that’s as should be ‘ready-wise’ - maybe too bloody ready! Does driving send their guts funny though?

[PeteDerby]

I don’t think that’s the change of corn Pete as barley is full of fibre
Best dropping I get are 2 parts barley 1 part beans


Anything new in the water are they drinking the same ?

Can you get hold of amoxicillin?

I can get hold of anything to be honest but I’m not wanting to go down the route of applying antibiotics every time something happens. I’ve been told I’m on a hiding to nothing taking that view, but for me I’d rather understand the root cause and prevent it in the future if possible Neil.

I meant just for the hen Pete if you wanted to be safe and intended to keep her
The rest of the birds I think it just depends if there dropping are split or very watery or just a bit mushy

Ah ok Neil. I’ve given her the Tony’s but she either gets over it or she doesn’t.

Some of the cocks droppings are a bit mushy (like when throwing last flight). One of them goes through spells of very clear watery droppings. It’s one which hasn’t taken a box yet so I can’t tell which one.