Your thoughts members.

[Spieker-Loft]

I find reading about the racing in the UK and Germany very interesting.
It's quite different here.
There's two sorts of racing. There's city racing, like in Sydney or Melbourne. In Melbourne there are 5 Federations and many many thousands of pigeons are sent every week. There are many people from European countries and Malta in the big cities and there is a strong tie to pigeon racing. It is in fact a big thing. This is why there are so many imported Euro speed pigeons. You need fast ones to compete.
Out in the country, or'the bush' as it's called, it's a whole different game. Many clubs exist in the bush, but a lot are small. Where I used to live in Bendigo there are two clubs and about a couple of dozen flyers. They are well spread out and the pigeons often have to fly a long way on their own line to their lofts.
The numbers may not look impressive, but with the terrain and the hawks and doing it alone, you need good pigeons just to get them home. You need bloody good pigeons to win. You need top pigeons to win them in a row.

I find it very interesting aswell. We all enjoy and love the same sport and in general the sport is the everywhere pigeons getting liberated and whoever is home fastest is the winner. But yet it seems so different everywhere regardless of the core beeing the same.

[king]

All good mate you just didnt know the dynamics of how stuff works here which is different to over in the UK
Overall im pleased with my performance so far. Given the competition in my combine where people win 7th ace hen in all of germany etc im very proud of my 3x1st and i think if im proud of it thats all that matters to be honest

We're different characters you and I Leon

Not saying better or worse, just different

You see, there's no performance that ever made me "happy"

I work so well with Gary and Niall Gordon 'cos they're the same too - they are never happy

When they had the first 25 in the NIPA (Never done before and I doubt will ever be done again) you'd think Gary had lost a tenner and found a penny. When I won I was never "happy". If I won I analysed where was the backup? If the backup was there then why didn't I win by more? Was all the trapping perfection? I was the master at finding a negative of any positive.

All I'm saying is if you aim for perfection you'll rarely find it, but if you can come as close as you can to it then you're a handful for those you compete against. That was always my mentality. When I went to bed on Saturday night I hit the "reset" button and it was game-on for next week then. Feed off the good performances and use sub-standard ones as the fuel to drive you on

Having read this Mike, I know this is true with some fanciers. A fellow club member is the same he topped the combine once and when I saw him he looked like a close friend had died. My question to you, is if you/they are never 'happy' winning, what do you/they get out of keeping pigeons? If you can look and feel depressed Winning, how do you/they act when losing?

[CHARLTON34]

Would it be fair to say that Van Den Bulck had a connection with co breeding with Jos Cools originally.

[Anthony webster]

All good mate you just didnt know the dynamics of how stuff works here which is different to over in the UK
Overall im pleased with my performance so far. Given the competition in my combine where people win 7th ace hen in all of germany etc im very proud of my 3x1st and i think if im proud of it thats all that matters to be honest

What I can say to you Leon is to be careful when judging Club wins in the UK

There are some ultra competitive Club wins

An example

In the West Mids we have "The Super Club" that are affiliated to the Worcester Fed. They send arond 120 birds a week BUT it's a 5 bird limit, comprising of the finest birds from a lot of the very finest fanciers racing for good money. So in black and white it might look like a 1st versus 100 birds. In actual fact, a 1st in that Club is a super super achievement - cos you take on "the best" from "the best"

Look in belgium at diamantvond where they sprint
Vd brand other Yr sent 4 birds he was 1,2,3,4 against 100 plus birds don't look brilliant on paper but 38 members sent there absolute best ,the best sprint lofts in belgium gambling lots each race ,,
See the sprint championship ain't set up for that area but the belgiums know where the best live not what we see advertised here ,,there's lofts that only locals know but they have fastest birds in belgium.
I lived in London raced in East London fed not massive birdage 800 plus a week but competition was so high ,most London lads raved 12 to 24 pigeons, in North East most lofts race 80 to 150 pigeons so results look great but is competition better when you look at it closely?.

[Champbourke08]

My favourite is the box 17 cock luckily I've got a son off it

[Champbourke08]

This is my son off box 17 cock

[Anthony webster]

I'm good friends with Jimmy he trains greyhounds now I give him a double greyhound treadmill for he's dogs
I had dtr quarry Queen but she's over a friends at moment good fella jimmy

[Champbourke08]

This is my other bussheart filmstar from Jimmy

[PeteDerby]

Didn’t know where to ask this so the title seems apt. Question: the guy who helps me says he was always told never pair a red to a mealy. I’ve never heard that before so I assumed it was one of those old bits of conventional wisdom based on BS, but can anyone else shed light on it?

I’ve got red ch and mealy nest mates and, out of a totally different line, two barless mealy nest mates that I was going to put together. Thoughts?

[PeteDerby]

Didn’t know where to ask this so the title seems apt. Question: the guy who helps me says he was always told never pair a red to a mealy. I’ve never heard that before so I assumed it was one of those old bits of conventional wisdom based on BS, but can anyone else shed light on it?

I’ve got red ch and mealy nest mates and, out of a totally different line, two barless mealy nest mates that I was going to put together. Thoughts?

Sorry, to clarify, the nest mates are two cock and two hens, not thinking of pairing brothers and sisters with each other.