I would like to use Cina 30CH for Deworming, As recommended by some, but I would like be sure about using it molting season, As it might create fret marks on Feathers, Your valuable opinion helps alot.
My birds are little bit lethargic, Not active as usual, I have taken out last feathers to complete the molt. Because here we race in January, They locked up now for 1 month. I saw some Roundworms in one of the dropping, I don't want to use moxi or Moxivet Plus from Vetafarm,
Kindly advice how I should proceed.
What are your opinion
Thank you
Does Homeopathy Remedy Cause Harm During Molting
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MayorofNothing
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Thank you.Andy wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:51 pm Hi. I wouldn’t have thought that Homeopathy would harm them but I don’t treat for anything so others will probably be able to give better advice. Nice to see you on here though. Welcome to the site.
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Diamond Dave
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Hi M.O.N. where abouts are you - racing in January?
You are obviously already aware of the damage caused by worming during the moult.
I can't answer your question because I don't know what is in your homeopathic remedy.
Can you make a comparison with the ingredients of your remedy and a standard wormer - if there is anything thr same I would be cautious.
I was once told I could use a well known dog wormer
(a quarter of a tablet) while they were on their last few flights and when they grew back some had 1.5cm
'tabs' on the end of those flights - I thought great, they will fly faster
but the quill turned at about 30 degrees and impeded flying so I cut them off.
Good luck my friend - let us know how it turns out and if it works - bottle it and flog it
You are obviously already aware of the damage caused by worming during the moult.
I can't answer your question because I don't know what is in your homeopathic remedy.
Can you make a comparison with the ingredients of your remedy and a standard wormer - if there is anything thr same I would be cautious.
I was once told I could use a well known dog wormer
(a quarter of a tablet) while they were on their last few flights and when they grew back some had 1.5cm
'tabs' on the end of those flights - I thought great, they will fly faster
but the quill turned at about 30 degrees and impeded flying so I cut them off.Good luck my friend - let us know how it turns out and if it works - bottle it and flog it
He's from India Dave. Cina 30 is used for Deworming in Cows, Buffalos, Goats & Sheep. Would I use it on pigeons NO. Since it's not made for them, any dose would be a guess. And when you consider the size of the animals it is intended for that dose is going to be a very small one? seems popular in the far East, after reading the bottle, we in the West would probably call it 'snake oil'
Cina (Dilution)
Common Name: Worm-seed
Causes & Symptoms for Cina
The conditions that may be referred to intestinal irritation, such as worms and accompanying complaints.
Grinding of teeth, convulsions, with screams and violent jerkings of the hands and feet indicates Cina.
It is pre-eminently a worm medicine, children's remedy.
Mind and Head
Ill-humour and naughtiness, great anguish and anxiety on walking in the open air. Dull pains in the head, with eyes fatigued.
Extreme sensitiveness of mind and body, offended by the slightest thing, aversion to be caressed indicates Cina.
Eyes, ear, nose
Weakness of sight, Convulsive movements of the muscles of the eyebrows.
There is irritation of the nose, causing constant desire to rub, prick, or press into it, Fluent coryza, with sensation of burning in the nostrils.
Stoppage of the nose, in the evening.
Mouth and Throat
Face pale and cold, hands warm, grits teeth during sleep.
Cramp-like pains and successive pullings in the cheek-bones is relieved with Cina.
Dry, tickling cough induced by reading.
Stomach and abdomen
Vomiting with a clean tongue, Craving for sweets. Gets hungry soon after a meal.
Epigastric pain; worse, first waking in morning , hunger may come on in the middle of the night, as in children, frequent hiccough.
Cutting and pinching pain in the abdomen from worms.
Bloated abdomen, especially in children.
Stool and Anus
Itching of the anus, Loose, involuntary, whitish evacuations.
Stool with maw-worms, thick worms indicates Cina.
Urinary complaints
Urine white, turbid, at times fetid.
Involuntary emission of urine at night.
Female complaints
Uterine hemorrhage before puberty.
Neck and Back
Pains, as from a bruise, in the loins, is relieved with Cina.
Extremities
Sprained feeling in the wrist-joint, cramp-like tearings in the arms and in the hands.
Cramp-like extension of the legs is relieved with Cina.
Generalities
Jerking and digging shootings in the chest. Convulsions, and distortion of the limbs.
Tetanic stiffness of the whole body. Heaviness in the limbs. Child gets on hands and knees in sleep, on abdomen.
Side effects of Cina
There are no such side effects. But every medicine should be taken following the rules as given.
It is safe to take the medicine even if you are on other mode of medication like allopathy medicines, ayurvedic etc.
Homeopathic medicines never interfere with the action of other medicines.
Dosage and rules while taking Cina
Take 5 drops in half cup of water three times a day.
You can also medicate the globules and take 3 times a day or as prescribed by the physician.We recommend you to take under physicians guidance.
Precautions while taking Cina
Always keep a gap of 15 minutes before or after meals when you take medicine.
If pregnant or breastfeeding, ask a homeopathic practitioner before use.
Avoid eating tobacco or drinking alcohol during the course of medication.
Cina (Dilution)
Common Name: Worm-seed
Causes & Symptoms for Cina
The conditions that may be referred to intestinal irritation, such as worms and accompanying complaints.
Grinding of teeth, convulsions, with screams and violent jerkings of the hands and feet indicates Cina.
It is pre-eminently a worm medicine, children's remedy.
Mind and Head
Ill-humour and naughtiness, great anguish and anxiety on walking in the open air. Dull pains in the head, with eyes fatigued.
Extreme sensitiveness of mind and body, offended by the slightest thing, aversion to be caressed indicates Cina.
Eyes, ear, nose
Weakness of sight, Convulsive movements of the muscles of the eyebrows.
There is irritation of the nose, causing constant desire to rub, prick, or press into it, Fluent coryza, with sensation of burning in the nostrils.
Stoppage of the nose, in the evening.
Mouth and Throat
Face pale and cold, hands warm, grits teeth during sleep.
Cramp-like pains and successive pullings in the cheek-bones is relieved with Cina.
Dry, tickling cough induced by reading.
Stomach and abdomen
Vomiting with a clean tongue, Craving for sweets. Gets hungry soon after a meal.
Epigastric pain; worse, first waking in morning , hunger may come on in the middle of the night, as in children, frequent hiccough.
Cutting and pinching pain in the abdomen from worms.
Bloated abdomen, especially in children.
Stool and Anus
Itching of the anus, Loose, involuntary, whitish evacuations.
Stool with maw-worms, thick worms indicates Cina.
Urinary complaints
Urine white, turbid, at times fetid.
Involuntary emission of urine at night.
Female complaints
Uterine hemorrhage before puberty.
Neck and Back
Pains, as from a bruise, in the loins, is relieved with Cina.
Extremities
Sprained feeling in the wrist-joint, cramp-like tearings in the arms and in the hands.
Cramp-like extension of the legs is relieved with Cina.
Generalities
Jerking and digging shootings in the chest. Convulsions, and distortion of the limbs.
Tetanic stiffness of the whole body. Heaviness in the limbs. Child gets on hands and knees in sleep, on abdomen.
Side effects of Cina
There are no such side effects. But every medicine should be taken following the rules as given.
It is safe to take the medicine even if you are on other mode of medication like allopathy medicines, ayurvedic etc.
Homeopathic medicines never interfere with the action of other medicines.
Dosage and rules while taking Cina
Take 5 drops in half cup of water three times a day.
You can also medicate the globules and take 3 times a day or as prescribed by the physician.We recommend you to take under physicians guidance.
Precautions while taking Cina
Always keep a gap of 15 minutes before or after meals when you take medicine.
If pregnant or breastfeeding, ask a homeopathic practitioner before use.
Avoid eating tobacco or drinking alcohol during the course of medication.
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Diamond Dave
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Ha- ha - is that what the medicine man sold in the old wild west. 
I'm surprised Kier Starmer hasn't picked up on that stuff as a mandatory cure-all for grumpy teenagers.
I would have thought they could've been a bit more specific about its uses
Good luck with that M.O.N. think I'd rather suffer a few roundworm and worm them properly after the moult.
I'm surprised Kier Starmer hasn't picked up on that stuff as a mandatory cure-all for grumpy teenagers.
I would have thought they could've been a bit more specific about its uses
Good luck with that M.O.N. think I'd rather suffer a few roundworm and worm them properly after the moult.