RPRA Rule Changes

[Bowbroom]

All the work currently done by regions will have to be done by someone, the admin will fall to HQ staff and the rest, settlement of disputes etc will have to be sorted by the Executive
There is a possible mitigation by payments being made electronically, unfortunately most of the remaining members I know are tech averse
As far as voting is concerned, OMOV or in these days of political correctness shouldn’t it be OPOV?
I predict that if this came to pass it would result in approximately the same minority will bother that can be bothered to get involved now.
Some peoples ideologies forget that the vast majority just simply want to pay their dues and demands and race their birds end of.

[goose1]

Any bussiness needs to move with the times, I feel this has been the problem in the past with the RPRA. With the new technology improvement, and far better data to store information. Which then can be used by minimum of persons, the need for change is needed. It as become outdated and needs to be run more efficient and less cost effectively.

I'm fairly young I'm all for moving with the times but when the vast majority of your membership is over 65 year old do you think making them do everything online is a good move? To just say everything can be done online when you know the age of the people your dealing with and the difficulties and unwillingness you would face is pretty poor in my opinion.

That's not a dig at you Devo it's more of a reply to yourself and Ian Evans

[goose1]

I do totally agree with the view that things do need to change at the RPRA, to some degree, but I'm not sure i agree with the radical changes that are proposed and I'm not totally convinced that some of this isn't coming about because some feel they have scores to settle.

[Bowbroom]

I think that Devo has hit the nub of the matter, the Administration of Pigeon racing is seen by some as a Business, when for most participants it’s a much loved hobby, of course any association must meet its financial obligations and out goings but apart from that, imo it should not be viewed as a business.
There are those that make a good living from the sport and of course they may wish it to be viewed as a business but the vast majority of participants don’t and just wish to pursue their hobby.

[Bowbroom]

As I said, of course overheads have to be met but is it really necessary to treat the administration of Pigeon Racing as though it were a PLC? I don’t believe that it is, but that’s only my view

[king]

As I said, of course overheads have to be met but is it really necessary to treat the administration of Pigeon Racing as though it were a PLC? I don’t believe that it is, but that’s only my view

Most PLC's run this way would have gone bust. Where LARGE amounts of money are involved, you can't have a cavalier approach to finance. Would you rather have, the books don't balance, let's put up subs? Cause they just did that.

[Ian Evans]

There's 2 points I'd like to address from the content above.

The RPRA needs to be run as a business but a social business with its core aims and objectives to be to provide the basis for pigeons racing and the advancement of pigeon racing. There are plenty of social business that operate on this basis. I've worked with and helped develop over 100 such social business. They are 'not for profit' with any surplus reinvested into the community. In this case the pigeon racing community.
The RPRA is a business. It employs staff, owns assets, pays corporation tax etc etc.

The second is the point as to whether these proposals have something to do with 'scores being settled ' . My question is what scores and by whom ??

Let's for the record put one thing straight. I personally am not.motivated by settling scores. My core aim is to get the RPRA on a Prosperous setting and the sport in general. Anyone who knows me will know this. Those of you who don't please take the time to listen to the You tube interviews. Everything I have included in the proposition is what I have believed is right since 2016 when I took the job. The only thing that has changed during that journey is the timing of removing the regions.

[Diamond Dave]

As I said, of course overheads have to be met but is it really necessary to treat the administration of Pigeon Racing as though it were a PLC? I don’t believe that it is, but that’s only my view

I fear that you may be one of the dinosaurs Bowbroom who wants to keep everything on pen and paper.
30 years ago when there were 30-40 members in a club and 3 or 4 clubs in every town. the regions were obviously justified but not now and with automation, mechanisation, electronics all so easy to apply, you wont have to worry who is doing the work of the regions because they will be totally unnecessary. This will have an immediate effect on lightening the financial burden on the RPRA.
Further to all that has been said so far, one of the biggest issues for me is "transparancy".
The RPRA is our union yet they (council) just do their own thing. There is no communication with us the members, infact the CEO has publicly stated that he doesn't want to communicate with us.
If you want to communicate something to them, you could have to wait a year to go through the archaic procedures and then another year for anything to get done. The entire process of so-called "governance" is pathetic.
The Hall report would have saved all of this but the council was too busy looking after their own interest to listen to the advice that they themselves called for.
"Jobs for the boys" springs to mind!
- Nothing personal Bowbroom, we all have a different outlook and like you said in a previous post "we will find out soon enough"
Good luck to you Ian and thanks for the mammoth efforts you and everyone else have put into this to try to save the RPRA from sinking into oblivion.

[goose1]

There's 2 points I'd like to address from the content above.

The RPRA needs to be run as a business but a social business with its core aims and objectives to be to provide the basis for pigeons racing and the advancement of pigeon racing. There are plenty of social business that operate on this basis. I've worked with and helped develop over 100 such social business. They are 'not for profit' with any surplus reinvested into the community. In this case the pigeon racing community.
The RPRA is a business. It employs staff, owns assets, pays corporation tax etc etc.

The second is the point as to whether these proposals have something to do with 'scores being settled ' . My question is what scores and by whom ??

Let's for the record put one thing straight. I personally am not.motivated by settling scores. My core aim is to get the RPRA on a Prosperous setting and the sport in general. Anyone who knows me will know this. Those of you who don't please take the time to listen to the You tube interviews. Everything I have included in the proposition is what I have believed is right since 2016 when I took the job. The only thing that has changed during that journey is the timing of removing the regions.

How did you come to leave your employment with the RPRA? Totally understand if it's not something you want to put on an open forum I'm just curious. My previous comment about settling scores certainly wasn't aimed at anyone in particular so I find your response interesting

[Ian Evans]

There's 2 points I'd like to address from the content above.

The RPRA needs to be run as a business but a social business with its core aims and objectives to be to provide the basis for pigeons racing and the advancement of pigeon racing. There are plenty of social business that operate on this basis. I've worked with and helped develop over 100 such social business. They are 'not for profit' with any surplus reinvested into the community. In this case the pigeon racing community.
The RPRA is a business. It employs staff, owns assets, pays corporation tax etc etc.

The second is the point as to whether these proposals have something to do with 'scores being settled ' . My question is what scores and by whom ??

Let's for the record put one thing straight. I personally am not.motivated by settling scores. My core aim is to get the RPRA on a Prosperous setting and the sport in general. Anyone who knows me will know this. Those of you who don't please take the time to listen to the You tube interviews. Everything I have included in the proposition is what I have believed is right since 2016 when I took the job. The only thing that has changed during that journey is the timing of removing the regions.

How did you come to leave your employment with the RPRA? Totally understand if it's not something you want to put on an open forum I'm just curious. My previous comment about settling scores certainly wasn't aimed at anyone in particular so I find your response interesting

So if your comment isn't aimed at anyone what does my leaving the employment of the RPRA have to do with anything ?