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Waiting on information of a auction coming up, hoping the information will be soon. Very good breeding in this hen, it may just be the one.
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MIL
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Is it the 2017 hen you're interested in George?

I have lots on the parents of that hen - alongside the brothers and sisters of "TILA"
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What a cracking bird and eye
Sadies Lofts home of decent birds just a useless loft manager, and now a confirmed loser but proud :D :D
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MIL wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:08 am Is it the 2017 hen you're interested in George?

I have lots on the parents of that hen - alongside the brothers and sisters of "TILA"
Yes Mike, i do like this hen. So just waiting for more information.
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Direct Children of "ARTURO" x "TILLA" are
- ‘Cobalt’; 1. prov. Venlo 17,235 birds … 1. fastest Weert 13,141 birds
1. local / 5. prov. Venlo 4,910 birds … 54. prov. Arlon 16,181 birds

- ‘Rosa’; 1. Nat. SIV Issoudun 709 km 3,746 birds … 4. Nat. S4 Sens 4,672 birds
22. prov. Arlon 13,967 birds … 34. prov. Venlo 9,994 birds

- ‘Fabio’; 2. Nat. S4 Chateauroux 731 km 3,647 birds
14. Nat. S4 Lorris 597 km 6,086 birds … 78. NPO Troyes 509 km 2,485 birds
83. NPO Auxerre 572 km 2,611 birds

- ‘Aura’; 1. local / 3. Nat. S4 Lorris 597 km 6,086 birds
Also 30.-45.-53.-55.-67. NPO/provincial

- ‘Bowe’; 3. NPO Brienne 493 km 3,238 birds & 13. NPO Gray 579 km 2,077 b.
50. prov. Arlon 330 km 7,714 birds … 61. prov. Arlon 330 km 10,610 birds

- ‘Vera’; 3. prov. Dreis-Bruck 18,212 birds … 3. Nat. S4 Sens 4,995 birds
5. prov. Rethel 8,181 birds … 21. prov. Munster 18,452 birds
28. prov. Arlon 16,256 birds … etc., etc.

- ‘Nancy’; 8. Nat. S4 Lorris 597 km 6,086 birds
18. prov. Isnes 8,525 birds … 45. prov. Weert 1,328 birds

- ‘Haley’; 13. Nat. S4 Lorris 597 km 6,086 birds
17. prov. Tongeren 7,478 birds / 4. – 1,609 birds
23. prov. Weert 5,785 birds … 53. prov. Arlon 7,113 birds

Grandchildren ‘Arturo’ x ‘Tila’ won
1. Nat. S2 Vierzon 567 km – 7,956 birds (at G. & S. Verkerk)
1. NPO Chalons YB 433 km - 3,892 birds (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. NPO Argenton 568 km – 3,127 birds (at Gijs Baan)
1. I.prov. Sittard – 18,592 birds (at Foppe VD Meer)
1. prov. Arlon – 13,967 birds 2022 (g.child ‘Tila’ at Henk Slot)
1. prov. Kalkar – 13,922 birds (at Broos Family)
1. prov. Gennep – 12,570 birds (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. prov. PS Maxence – 9,142 birds (at Ruud Bakker)
1. prov. Fontenay – 6,455 birds (at Gebr. Scheele)
3x 1. prov. winner 2,580 – 1,625 – 1,384 birds (at Wolfgang Roeper)
1.-2.-2.-2.-3.-4.-7.-7.-8.-10. avg. 1,300 birds (at Wolfgang Roeper)
1. Sittard - 986 birds (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. prize 460 km - 620 birds (at H. & S. Harms)
2. Nat. BICC St. Philbert – 2,105 birds (at Mark Gilbert, UK)
3. prov. Zutphen – 11,824 birds (at Foppe VD Meer)
5. prov. Melun – 5,644 birds (at Ruud Bakker)
8. Dutch yearling PIPA Ranking 2019 (at Broos Family)

Great grandchildren ‘Arturo’ x ‘Tila’ won
1. Olympiad bird NL cat. youngsters (at Broos Family)
1. Nat. acebird speed De Allerbeste 2021-2022 (at Olaf Westhoeve)
1. NPO Chalons En Champagne – 3,892 birds (at Gebr. Leideman)
1. prov. Arlon – 16,036 birds (at Gebr. Leideman)


"TILA" is Full Sister to "SIA", "RAISSA" and "OLYMPIC WOLFGANG"

"RAISSA" - Winner of :
1st Reserve NL Olympiad sprint Poznan 2018
1st Duffel 4,613 b. & fastest 6,969 birds
2nd Quievrain 10,570 birds after loftmate
3rd Prov. Niergnies 9,897 birds
4th Niergnies 9,897 birds
3rd Heusden-Zolder 5,927 birds


"SIA"
Winner of :
1. Gennep 107 km 11,041 birds
1. Isnes 265 km 8,665 birds
1. Quievrain 314 km 2,480 birds
11. Quievrain 10,570 birds
26. Morlincourt 4,815 birds
34. Heusden-Zolder 11,336 birds

"SIA" features in the breeding of 23V25328 who has raced exceptional for Barron & Douglas winning
1st Federation 106 birds, 37th Section 1,1014 birds
3rd Federation 177 birds, 3rd Section 1,734 birds, 12th Open UNC 9,836 birds
3rd Federation 519 birds, 3rd Section 4,017 birds (beat by 2 loftmates)
4th Federation 152 birds, 5th Section 960 birds
4th Federation 441 birds, 7th Section 3,199 birds
5th Federation 332 birds (Beat by 4 loftmates), 6th Section 2,649 birds (Beat by 4 loftmates)
6th Federation 178 birds, 9th Section 1,048 birds
6th Federation 214 birds, 32nd Section 1,226 birds
7th Federation 539 birds, 16th Section 3,725 birds
9th Federation 139 birds, 50th Section 1,200 birds
11th Federation 179 birds


‘OLYMPIC WOLFGANG’, Wolfgang Roeper
Olympiade bird cat. D allround 2022
1. RV Starogard 379 km - 2,947 birds 2019
1. RV Lubieszyn 304 km – 1,265 birds 2020
1. RV Demmin 214 km - 1,187 birds 2019
1. RV Lubieszyn 304 km - 1,124 birds 2018
1. RV Lubieszyn 304 km - 846 birds 2018



There are others same way bred as well of course George :



Also full sister to
- ‘Frida’; 6. World Best Pigeon FCI cat. allround 2021 (NL)
5. Nat. S4 Lorris 3,455 birds … 6. prov. Dreis Brück 18,212 birds
8. s-prov. Chimay 3,208 birds … 12. NPO Chalons 4,782 birds 2021
19. prov. Ludenscheid 18,737 birds 2021

- ‘Ella’; G.mother of 1. Nat. GP Melun 4,963 birds at Comb. Heeren

- ‘Yara’; At Gerard Koopman breeder of 1. Nat. S4 Lorris 3,455 birds

- ‘The 900 Man’; At Gerard Koopman g.father 1. I.prov. ace LD at Stefan Göbel

- ‘595/19’ Eijerkamp; 3. prov. 10,065 birds after l.mates & 10. prov. 6,829 b.
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Mike, i think the more i find out about this hen the better. It is going in a final sale coming up. I remember you saying Cobalt was one of the very best offspring of the couple.

Until i chat with the owner, i have only found this information out.
1st prijs 460 km 620 p. (H. & S. Harms) – from NL17-1864068 Zus Fabio
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This is my thing George - this is what I do

This is why lots of people come via me before investing in different pigeons
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MIL wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:39 pm This is my thing George - this is what I do

This is why lots of people come via me before investing in different pigeons
And i am sure you do it well Mike, what price would you put on this?
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Devo1956 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:27 am Mike, i think the more i find out about this hen the better. It is going in a final sale coming up. I remember you saying Cobalt was one of the very best offspring of the couple.

Until i chat with the owner, i have only found this information out.
1st prijs 460 km 620 p. (H. & S. Harms) – from NL17-1864068 Zus Fabio

Yes, all I can see for her is that she's the Dam of 1st 620 birds for H & S Harms

Giving her advancing age you'd like to see a catalogue of performances coming through her

No denying the relentless wave of pigeons coming via this line though.

I could blind people with detail
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Devo1956 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:42 pm
And i am sure you do it well Mike, what price would you put on this?

Her age is aganst her going for "mega money" but the Leideman birds are very sought after at the mo

Arturo and Tila and second only to Goed Grijs

Her price (as daft as it sounds) is massively influenced by who the seller is and on what website its offered

It won't be PIPA on behalf of Leideman - so you're quids in for a start
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