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February 12th, 2019, 2:15 pm

As I have said I am now hoping parents will let me keep 4 prisoners... Mainly for breeding for OLR.

1 - does anyone clip their prisoners? General opinion?

2 - how much space is fair on a pigeon?

3 - I've mentioned on another post but is their a spot to vaccinate pigeons?

4 - how the hell do you pick up a pigeon... I've only held pigeons other people have picked up...

5 - we've got a cat but I was going to provide the birds with boxes at the back, solid sides and with an aviary type design to the front? So they have space to get away from the cat. Knowing how the young birds Devo is breeding are doing their probably more likely to have a go at cat...

6 - separate space for yougbirds so I can separate from parents?

I'm sure there will be many more questions I will add...
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February 12th, 2019, 3:06 pm

1 Some people do clip them, I don't even though I have purchased clipped ones in the past

2 Space between perches or to move around in??

3 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... xLjMo2UD0l

4 2 fingers either side of legs, thumb across back by tail
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February 12th, 2019, 3:23 pm

Chris have put a link up on the post you asked question on
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February 12th, 2019, 3:33 pm

buster121 wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 3:06 pm
1 Some people do clip them, I don't even though I have purchased clipped ones in the past

2 Space between perches or to move around in??

3 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... xLjMo2UD0l

4 2 fingers either side of legs, thumb across back by tail
Cheers Buster, on 2 - I'm going to hopefully have two pairs, so was going to give them nest boxes, similar to these in terms of design:
http://www.pallatts.com/deluxe-conventional-nest-box/

What I am thinking is making it a nest box on top of a nest box and having an aviary/sitting area to the front. I have seen somewhere someone said 2 cubic feet per bird. But that seems a bit cruel? I was thinking of making the breeding boxes quite big, something like 80 cm x 50 x 50 so a bit bigger than those ones. Then with the breeding box on top of one another, that would be 80 x 50 x 100. and then probably give them a half meter at the front, making it 80cm Wide my 1m high, by 1m deep. So something like 0.8 Cubic meters, or 28 cubic feet for four to breed and move around in, without thinking about a separate or attached box for youngbirds. Obviously all on stilts like this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIRMINGHAM-R ... 3674907045

Problem is that is in Yorkshire and is collect. Bit of a way for me from Surrey.
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February 12th, 2019, 4:01 pm

Sure I seen them on ebay as flat pack mate
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February 12th, 2019, 4:07 pm

you could knock one of them up Chris, would not cost much mate.
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February 12th, 2019, 5:05 pm

I know. I'm thinking that. It's basically two boxes inside a big box with a dowel grill at the front
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February 12th, 2019, 5:14 pm

CDBL wrote:
February 12th, 2019, 5:05 pm
I know. I'm thinking that. It's basically two boxes inside a big box with a dowel grill at the front
You can make a wire grill floor, so dropping fall through, into a draw on the bottom.
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February 12th, 2019, 5:14 pm

Yep that's the thoughts
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February 12th, 2019, 5:26 pm

1. I have never clipped prisoners.

2. Personally I would just buy a small shed 6 x 4 would be plenty big enough. It would give them room to fly around a bit and also give you room for some perches as well as a couple of nest boxes. I would make the nest boxes 80 x 40 x 40.

3. You need 2 people to vaccinate. One to hold the pigeon and one to inject it. The injection goes under the skin in the back of the neck down near the shoulder.

4. To catch them, move slowly towards them with both hands fanned out together. Then pick the pigeon up from front on, Never chase them around or grab at them. Then pick them and hold as Buster has said.

5. Another reason for having a small shed. You don’t want the cat to be able too get to the front and worry the pigeons. They won’t like seeing the cat even if it can’t get them. They do get used to them eventually but better not to allow them to see them.

6. If they have enough room and separate perches there is no need to separate them. They will leave the nest boxes when ready and use the perches.
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