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MIL wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:36 am Whereabouts are you Trev ?
I'm in West Sussex mate, just outside Arundel !!
The May's are the guys most likely to have them !!
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I really like the bird from the Leideman brothers, Crack 19 one of the best breeders in their breeding loft.

https://www.pipa.be/de/articles/16705/a ... ason-16705
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again cracking looking birds Dev
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George and Morgan wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:49 am again cracking looking birds Dev
A son of Crack 19 would do me, then bull to 4 hens. Quality at its best George.
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Devo1956 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:40 am I really like the bird from the Leideman brothers, Crack 19 one of the best breeders in their breeding loft.

https://www.pipa.be/de/articles/16705/a ... ason-16705

Yes, he's a good un. One off him with "GOED GRIJS" a few months ago sold for 112,000 euro on PIPA (a baby)

"CRACK 19" is a G.Son of Gert Heylen's "DONKER 859" hen and the "JACKPOT" cock

Red Hill Farm Lofts (Paul Green) has them direct from this 859 hen and the 2004 "JACKPOT"

Some info on "CRACK 19"


"CRACK 19" NL14-1466919
Winner of
1. regional acebird middle dist. 2016
4. prov. Soissons - 6,403 birds
5. prov. Morlincourt - 5,934 birds
6. NPO Sens - 4,237 birds
6. NPO Lorris - 1,769 birds


In 2023 Hok Hemstra wins 1st National Ace Bird Middle Distance NPO with NL22-8018685
This pigeon carries the blood of "CRACK 19" and "GOED GRIJS" and wins :
1st 1,529 birds
2nd 695 birds
3rd 1,803 birds
3rd 928 birds
6th 1,120 birds
25th 2,354 birds




3 generations offspring ‘Çrack 19’ won a/o
1. Olympiad bird NL cat. youngsters at Broos Family
Olympiad bird Germany cat. A 2020-2021 at Neuhaus
1. Nat. acebird speed De Allerbeste 2021-2022 at Olaf Westhoeve
1. Nat. ace late tour TBOTB/WHZB at Eijerkamp
1. Nat. S2 Vierzon 567 km – 7,956 birds at G. & S. Verkerk
1. Nat. GP Melun – 4,963 birds at Comb. Heeren
1. Nat. S4 Issoudun 709 km – 3,746 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. NPO Chalons En Champagne – 3,892 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. NPO Argenton 568 km – 3,127 birds at Gijs Baan
1. NPO South / 2. Nat. S3 Sens – 8,750 birds at Team Roording
1. I.prov. Sittard – 18,592 birds at Foppe VD Meer
1. I.prov. Weert – 13,141 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. prov. acebird allround 2020 appr. 17,000 birds at Calis
1. prov. Quievrain – 25,734 birds at K. & K. Meijers
1. prov. Soest – 17,538 birds at Leideman
1. prov. Morlincourt - 17,024 birds at Eijerkamp
1. prov. Kalkar – 13,922 birds at Broos Family
1. prov. Gennep – 12,570 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. prov. Lessines – 8,418 birds at Calis
1. prov. winner 291 km – 7,891 birds at Neuhaus
1. prov. Fontenay – 6,455 birds at Gebr. Scheele
1. prov. Deurne - 4,299 birds at Leideman
3x 1. prov. winner 2,580 – 1,625 – 1,384 birds at Wolfgang Roeper
1. s-prov. acebird allround 2021 at Leideman
1.-1.-3.-8. in Training races Pattaya Int. One Loft Race
Many more 1. prize winners in big competition & prov./NPO top 10 winners
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Trev wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:52 am
MIL wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:36 am Whereabouts are you Trev ?
I'm in West Sussex mate, just outside Arundel !!
The May's are the guys most likely to have them !!

I tend to know most of who has Direct Blizzard, but I woulfn't pretend for definite that I know everybody who has them

The May's may well have something, but if they do I don't know it
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MIL wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:46 am
Devo1956 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:40 am I really like the bird from the Leideman brothers, Crack 19 one of the best breeders in their breeding loft.

https://www.pipa.be/de/articles/16705/a ... ason-16705

Yes, he's a good un. One off him with "GOED GRIJS" a few months ago sold for 112,000 euro on PIPA (a baby)

"CRACK 19" is a G.Son of Gert Heylen's "DONKER 859" hen and the "JACKPOT" cock

Red Hill Farm Lofts (Paul Green) has them direct from this 859 hen and the 2004 "JACKPOT"

Some info on "CRACK 19"


"CRACK 19" NL14-1466919
Winner of
1. regional acebird middle dist. 2016
4. prov. Soissons - 6,403 birds
5. prov. Morlincourt - 5,934 birds
6. NPO Sens - 4,237 birds
6. NPO Lorris - 1,769 birds



In 2023 Hok Hemstra wins 1st National Ace Bird Middle Distance NPO with NL22-8018685
This pigeon carries the blood of "CRACK 19" and "GOED GRIJS" and wins :
1st 1,529 birds
2nd 695 birds
3rd 1,803 birds
3rd 928 birds
6th 1,120 birds
25th 2,354 birds




3 generations offspring ‘Çrack 19’ won a/o
1. Olympiad bird NL cat. youngsters at Broos Family
Olympiad bird Germany cat. A 2020-2021 at Neuhaus
1. Nat. acebird speed De Allerbeste 2021-2022 at Olaf Westhoeve
1. Nat. ace late tour TBOTB/WHZB at Eijerkamp
1. Nat. S2 Vierzon 567 km – 7,956 birds at G. & S. Verkerk
1. Nat. GP Melun – 4,963 birds at Comb. Heeren
1. Nat. S4 Issoudun 709 km – 3,746 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. NPO Chalons En Champagne – 3,892 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. NPO Argenton 568 km – 3,127 birds at Gijs Baan
1. NPO South / 2. Nat. S3 Sens – 8,750 birds at Team Roording
1. I.prov. Sittard – 18,592 birds at Foppe VD Meer
1. I.prov. Weert – 13,141 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. prov. acebird allround 2020 appr. 17,000 birds at Calis
1. prov. Quievrain – 25,734 birds at K. & K. Meijers
1. prov. Soest – 17,538 birds at Leideman
1. prov. Morlincourt - 17,024 birds at Eijerkamp
1. prov. Kalkar – 13,922 birds at Broos Family
1. prov. Gennep – 12,570 birds at Gebr. Leideman
1. prov. Lessines – 8,418 birds at Calis
1. prov. winner 291 km – 7,891 birds at Neuhaus
1. prov. Fontenay – 6,455 birds at Gebr. Scheele
1. prov. Deurne - 4,299 birds at Leideman
3x 1. prov. winner 2,580 – 1,625 – 1,384 birds at Wolfgang Roeper
1. s-prov. acebird allround 2021 at Leideman
1.-1.-3.-8. in Training races Pattaya Int. One Loft Race
Many more 1. prize winners in big competition & prov./NPO top 10 winners
Yes Mike a very good breeding Cock, i also like this cock. It looks like Crack 19,New Breeding Pigeon... Bred from full brother ACE 820 Gebr. Leidemann x granddaughter ACE 16 he becomes, among other things, 7 National Ace Pigeon Germany 2012 and Olympic Pigeon 2012 the best off Wolfgang Röper
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He looks smart

The "ACE 820" is a talented racerbreeder

Winner of :

"ACE 820" - Sensational Racer/Breeder
Winner of
1. I.prov. acebird allround & middle dist. 2018
4. Nat. acebird middle dist. TBOTB 2018
1. prov. Weert - 5,552 birds
3. prov. Quievrain - 10,570 birds
3. prov. Laon - 6,371 birds
6. prov. Rethel - 7,115 birds
2. Boxtel - 1,961 birds

Father of winners
1. prov. Weert - 11,059 birds
1. Venlo - 603 birds / 4. prov. 3,899 birds

G,father of ‘Grizzle Best Kittel’ Dehon-Demonseau
2. Nat. ace KBDB Sprint YL 2022 after loftmate ‘Méchant Best Kittel’
1. Pont – 2,322 birds
1. Pont – 1,363 birds
1. Ecouen - 860 birds
1. Pont - 730 birds
1. Ecouen - 696 birds
Also 6x only beaten by loft mates

G.father ‘Bert’ at Eijerkamp
11. Nat. acebird late tour WHZB/TBOTB 2019
2. prov. Niergnies – 10,065 birds after loft mate
Also 12.-22.-68. avg. +5,000 birds
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MIL wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:26 am He looks smart

The "ACE 820" is a talented racerbreeder

Winner of :

"ACE 820" - Sensational Racer/Breeder
Winner of
1. I.prov. acebird allround & middle dist. 2018
4. Nat. acebird middle dist. TBOTB 2018
1. prov. Weert - 5,552 birds
3. prov. Quievrain - 10,570 birds
3. prov. Laon - 6,371 birds
6. prov. Rethel - 7,115 birds
2. Boxtel - 1,961 birds

Father of winners
1. prov. Weert - 11,059 birds
1. Venlo - 603 birds / 4. prov. 3,899 birds

G,father of ‘Grizzle Best Kittel’ Dehon-Demonseau
2. Nat. ace KBDB Sprint YL 2022 after loftmate ‘Méchant Best Kittel’
1. Pont – 2,322 birds
1. Pont – 1,363 birds
1. Ecouen - 860 birds
1. Pont - 730 birds
1. Ecouen - 696 birds
Also 6x only beaten by loft mates

G.father ‘Bert’ at Eijerkamp
11. Nat. acebird late tour WHZB/TBOTB 2019
2. prov. Niergnies – 10,065 birds after loft mate
Also 12.-22.-68. avg. +5,000 birds
Yes Mike, my friend in Germany just added this bird to his breeding loft,.One hell of a pigeon. Would like a youngster from this pair.
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Very nice

My friend Les Carter at Excelsior Stud has a Direct Daughter of "SPEEDY GRIZZLE"
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