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That's why I asked Neil. I knew about Air Sac Mites, but never thought they wee a problem for pigeons. I know it possible for them to get them but unlikely. That's why I asked if fanciers are treating blind for them whilst treating for other things. I myself don't routinely worm or treat for any parasites, I just do them if I think they need it. The only treatment my get is a 7 day treatment for canker in Jan before the first eggs are laid.NeilA wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:25 pmYour worming and treating for mites the same time kingking wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 4:51 pm I don't of any fancier who has had there birds diagnosed with Air Sac Mites as they are not common in pigeons. Air Sac Mites are more common in cage birds & Poultry. Are fanciers treating blind for them? or just treating against parasites in general?
99 per cent of the people I know blind treat for worms so there treating for parasites anyway
Mike whilst it's almost certain some fanciers will have birds with them, do you know of any fancier that's actually had them diagnosed by a Vet? If using Ivermectin and Moxidectin, I expect many maybe are treating a problem they didn't know they had?MIke Lycett wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:35 pmMy take on this is that air-sac mite is a much more common problem than people realiseking wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 4:51 pm I don't of any fancier who has had there birds diagnosed with Air Sac Mites as they are not common in pigeons. Air Sac Mites are more common in cage birds & Poultry. Are fanciers treating blind for them? or just treating against parasites in general?
The mite live within the respiratory tract and when there's a problem can present itself with a rattling sound, or the birds gaping with an open-beak
When fanciers see/hear this they think "respiratory problem" - and to some degree it is but the root cause can be air-sac mite
As it happens Ivermectin and Moxidectin are both really efficient at treating this
Moxidectin has been my most recommended treatment for a lift in form for 30 years
A good reply Neil, I can see the value in your post & that makes a lot of sense, having an edge with the pigeons can make such a difference when racing.NeilA wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 3:18 amking wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 1:09 amThat's why I asked Neil. I knew about Air Sac Mites, but never thought they wee a problem for pigeons. I know it possible for them to get them but unlikely. That's why I asked if fanciers are treating blind for them whilst treating for other things. I myself don't routinely worm or treat for any parasites, I just do them if I think they need it. The only treatment my get is a 7 day treatment for canker in Jan before the first eggs are laid.NeilA wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:25 pm
Your worming and treating for mites the same time king
99 per cent of the people I know blind treat for worms so there treating for parasites anyway
See I worm I think it’s vital to have tne pigeons in peak condition
Having worms you can’t expect the bird to perform and not all worms are obvious to the eye
if we worm we are treating for parasites aswell so we are all if we use moxidectin or ivermectin treating for air sac mite etc
Why I posted I use ivermectin after using moxidectin is because a friend and very good fancier advised me that ivermectin has the slight edge for mite
Moxi the edge for worms although moxi stays in the system longer
So I took his advise
Now there’s nothing to support that just his advise but to me it seems sensible to do one then the other if we are worming
I have googled previously and I believe they lay eggs in the lungs do tne young feed off bloddd and the spare females live in the airways around the wattle and throat where they can be sneezed out spreading to other birds
Possible in the transporter
How often do you drop invermectin into nostril.NeilA wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:57 pmMIke Lycett wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 3:47 pm I always used Moxidectin for this, but the Cockney "Boy Wonder" has an alternative and probably better treatment for this
I'll let him tell you in a bit when he's on as I'm not sure of dosage administration
I haven’t a clue all I always went moxi
But I believe ivermectin is better for air sac might and moxi for worms
Both do the same job moxi will last longer on the system just in my head it works better like that
Moxi .2ml on the gob
Ivermectin 2 drops one each nostril or 2 in the gob
It is bloody hard on your own doing the nostril as it’s running out
It’s actually harder than yellow drops
Sent pm mate
