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Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:34 am
by Anthony webster
Normally for me it's 2 weeks before first race ,if its bit cold it's very short tosses if it's warmer I train out 20 30 miles if I get 4 tosses I'm OK if I get 12,14 tosses I'm over the moon ,,
Most important for me is how they loft fly and handle ,,
Training is just refreshing there head
Yrs ago I go every hour on first day training 1 mile small bit food hour later same from early until dark I wasn't home but pigeon man down rd called in said the whole team went through 4ft window together,,
For me it's getting them leaving liberation fast n straight n then trapping fast ,,training ain't about fitness they should be fit before training my opinion.
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:04 am
by Winfort Lofts
Funnily enough, that's w
One of the data points that I am tracking with my LoftBuddy app.
I am tracking temperature, humidity and general weather conditions, trying the map out which birds of mine suit different conditions I guess, but will also build an overall weather profile for when best to train them to get the best results!
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:53 pm
by Anthony webster
Unsure Neil because u can't teach em way home ,,if there clearing well doing 18 miles 18 to 22 mins all winds there be OK if there fuking around then I wouldn't race em until they was right.
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 6:48 am
by Royc
When training do you have the hens waiting at home for the cocks and when training hens will there be cocks waiting,or do you take both and release them 10 or 15 minutes apart and let them mix for a short time when they are back in loft.
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 7:03 pm
by CHARLTON34
NeilA wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2026 2:26 pm
Ling brothers always trained in groups of 5/6
If clearing in 8-10 secs out of sight they waited 20 secs then let another few go
I think if you can count to 10 slowly and still see pigeons even in the far distance there not spot on for sprinting
If this happens after the time what would your thinking be Mike & Neil respo?& What would you do if the first group came back over towards you would that be respo again or something completely different.
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 7:52 pm
by CHARLTON34
I need to be more on it with what they are doing after being libbed & take it from there regards health.
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2026 7:35 am
by Diamond Dave
NeilA wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 12:03 pm
MIke Lycett wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 12:02 pm
NeilA wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 8:28 am
How many would you think my yearlings would need they only had one race due to circumstances although probably 30 trainers around the 18 -22 mile mark
Am I right in thinking that their priorities do not lie within the first 4-5 weeks of the season ?
Yes towards the end of May I would like to see form if any comes that is
I've heard it said that you shouldnt send yearlings til the weather warms up. - is this why you dont expect anything from the yearlings for 4 or 5 weeks Neil and you dont expect winning form until May Mike?
Do you start your yearlings later.
If that is the case, should that apply to training too.?
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2026 11:32 am
by Diamond Dave
Thanks guys
There is obviously a big difference between form and superfotm.
Assuming form is fit, and healthy ( maybe flying well around home for 1 hr twice a day) How long would it take to get them into superform and how long would it last.
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2026 11:44 am
by Anthony webster
Some yrs in comes some yrs it don't come dave ,
In 2014,2017,2020 I got it other yrs was good but never got that unreal super form ,in 2020 in the tough Wisbech club out of the possible 47 prices they won 43 of them and in a possible 35 fed cards won over 30 in the first 7 of fed many times taking first 5
Super form we dream of but just turns up pal .
Re: Temperature and training
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2026 4:57 pm
by Anthony webster
I have diary's going back yrs two seasons never the same ,that's one reason why I never feed the same system 2 yrs running or use same supplements either it's one seasons one system second one different feeding system different supplements took many yrs to realise this.