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Bicc Pau

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:53 am
by Diamond Dave
Finally got one in the clock from what appears to have been a brutal race.
I sent my 2 cocks - 1 x 2yo and 1 x 4yo.
The 4 yo had been over the channel 8 or 9 times and the 2 yo 5 times.
In the week before liberation ( basketed Monday) I could see it was going to be a tough race with temps rising through mid France to 38 degrees on the day of the lib. If that weren't hard enough it was coupled with an East wind through most of France then turning right round to West on the channel.
I could see it was going to be a tough one when only about 20 birds were clocked in northern France on day one and these guys were likely only flying 450 miles at most. The Angleterre birds still had the daunting prospect of the channel and another 120 miles after that.
Nothing for me up in the shires on day 2 and I was beginning to think here I am again wasting my time, getting up at silly o'clock waiting for birds that never come, when at 7.15 on the 3rd day my 2yo cock came over the houses to clock 74th open and 3rd NE section.
Finally, got one in the clock from Pau after about 6 or 7 years of trying in earnest!
Day 3 doesn't sound brilliant but the conditions these birds had to fly through it is certainly very credible.
Not only that but he mustve beat 14 or 15 of M.Gilberts birds who apparantly sent 20 and only clocked 6 or 7.
Still waiting on my 4yo 'Dutch pied' but I am confident he will find his way home.
So chuffed with this bird but not really celebrating until the other one gets home.
Gotta say a big thankyou to you all for your help and guidance which has definately helped to get these birds to the race in the first place and also to get this fella in the clock.

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:04 am
by Albert
Well done Dave, Day 3 and 3rd Section 74th Open sounds brilliant to me, in a trying race.

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:14 pm
by king
Andy wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:59 am Well done Dave. Really chuffed for you. Not many have got 50% returns. Only 113 of the 660 birds timed in. Don’t forget in internationals all birds must be verified and not just your first bird.
Yes a hard one Andy. My mate has just 5/12 flying 616 miles. He's 2nd, 4th, 6th & 7th section. His first is 37th open.

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:07 pm
by goose1
Diamond Dave wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:53 am Finally got one in the clock from what appears to have been a brutal race.
I sent my 2 cocks - 1 x 2yo and 1 x 4yo.
The 4 yo had been over the channel 8 or 9 times and the 2 yo 5 times.
In the week before liberation ( basketed Monday) I could see it was going to be a tough race with temps rising through mid France to 38 degrees on the day of the lib. If that weren't hard enough it was coupled with an East wind through most of France then turning right round to West on the channel.
I could see it was going to be a tough one when only about 20 birds were clocked in northern France on day one and these guys were likely only flying 450 miles at most. The Angleterre birds still had the daunting prospect of the channel and another 120 miles after that.
Nothing for me up in the shires on day 2 and I was beginning to think here I am again wasting my time, getting up at silly o'clock waiting for birds that never come, when at 7.15 on the 3rd day my 2yo cock came over the houses to clock 74th open and 3rd NE section.
Finally, got one in the clock from Pau after about 6 or 7 years of trying in earnest!
Day 3 doesn't sound brilliant but the conditions these birds had to fly through it is certainly very credible.
Not only that but he mustve beat 14 or 15 of M.Gilberts birds who apparantly sent 20 and only clocked 6 or 7.
Still waiting on my 4yo 'Dutch pied' but I am confident he will find his way home.
So chuffed with this bird but not really celebrating until the other one gets home.
Gotta say a big thankyou to you all for your help and guidance which has definately helped to get these birds to the race in the first place and also to get this fella in the clock.
Well done mate

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:04 pm
by Diamond Dave
Thanx everyone - much appreciated.

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:15 am
by Albert
When working with a small team, no matter when you time at these distances, it's exciting. The goal is to make the result, to be among the winners is a bonus

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:45 pm
by Diamond Dave
Albert wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:15 am When working with a small team, no matter when you time at these distances, it's exciting. The goal is to make the result, to be among the winners is a bonus
Absolutely right Albert. To me it was just about getting something in the clock. I have been trying for some years now but never had the same confidence as I had when putting these 2 in the basket.
Still can't say for sure what I did right to get this lad home but can identify a lot of what I have done wrong previously.
I have probably lost a lot of good birds previously by being ignorant or perhaps not as committed as I should have been. ( Mike would've likely tore me off a strip for that!)
Trouble is with this distance lark, it takes a minimum of 3 years to find out whether or not the birds are good enough and if it goes tits-up, you have to start all over again.

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:36 am
by Diamond Dave
Are they likely to be a different kind of pigeon Murray?
I would agree with the principle of what you are saying but when the race organisers ban even yearlings from these distance races it is likely to be because they have experienced so many losses in the past.
Could the terrain or the conditions be different or could it be that they are racing back to 6 or 7 different countries and to different points of the compass.
I must admit - when I saw it was going to be 38 degrees through France - I did think of you and your birds out there in oz. It kinda made me feel a bit better when I got up at silly o'clock for the 2nd day running :shock:

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:12 pm
by Diamond Dave
Not all the distance races Murray - I believe it is only
Pau and Barcelona.
I could be wrong on that and I'm sure someone will soon correct me if I am.
I don't know why this is the case but in any case I would rather send a bird with some experience in a race like that.....but having said that, it is the 2yo that came back for me and the 4yo is still missing! I don't think there is any 'logic' that applies to pigeon racing.

Re: Bicc Pau

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:44 pm
by king
Diamond Dave wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:12 pm Not all the distance races Murray - I believe it is only
Pau and Barcelona.
I could be wrong on that and I'm sure someone will soon correct me if I am.
I don't know why this is the case but in any case I would rather send a bird with some experience in a race like that.....but having said that, it is the 2yo that came back for me and the 4yo is still missing! I don't think there is any 'logic' that applies to pigeon racing.
The NFC also used to bar yearlings from their Pau 500+ mile race. It was dropped because the longer fliers could still sent yearlings over 500 miles in other NFC races.