Verification Rule.

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Diamond Dave
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Does anyone know the purpose of this rule. Gotta admit to being totally piss3d off with it.
Last Bicc race was a holdover. Heldover until the day of my little grandaughters bitlrthday party.
This coming bicc race looks like it could also be a holdover when it is my wifes birthday and she has planned a family picnic.
Its bad enough that I will likely miss my birds coming home, let alone have a bird disqualified for not verifying within 30 mins.
Apart from causing me a whole load of anxiety, all the rule seems to do is take any flexibility and benefit out of the ETS system.
Surely it cant be just me that enjoys a family life outside of pigeons?
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Men who have never had any authority are suddenly given some. So when they say "jump", you are supposed to say "how high?".

You see similar people at the entrance gates to racecourses, in the ubiquitous Hi Vis vest, or as I call it "the weakling's suit of armour", abusing the only tiny bit of authority they have ever had.

There is no solution, mate. You just have to work around it.
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The rules are very easily added, but very rarely taken out!
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Winfort Lofts wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 9:25 am The rules are very easily added, but very rarely taken out!
That's the truth ;) :D
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Bowbroom
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The rule is there to stop people attempting to fiddle as you are aware or at least should be. There are ETS systems that can be connected to your mobile phone to inform you when your bird arrives so that you can verify remotely, for non ETS users it’s tough luck if no one’s there then verification can’t happen, I used to get around this by having a friend stand in for me when I flew on my own.
We all have lives outside the sport, it just depends what your priorities are.
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Bowbroom wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:58 am The rule is there to stop people attempting to fiddle as you are aware or at least should be. There are ETS systems that can be connected to your mobile phone to inform you when your bird arrives so that you can verify remotely, for non ETS users it’s tough luck if no one’s there then verification can’t happen, I used to get around this by having a friend stand in for me when I flew on my own.
We all have lives outside the sport, it just depends what your priorities are.
Again I agree (getting to be a habit) Your either racing pigeons or your not. If you can't be there don't send. In my younger days I missed many birds arriving from races, made worse by working shifts.
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I get why the rule is there, but these days with the ETS systems the security is far far better than clock have ever been, so far more unlikely to be interfered with.

I also work shifts, so I also occasionally miss out on seeing birds return. However as I'm sure we all know, racing pigeons is not just a weekend sport, and we look after them every day, so for some of us, not being there to see them home is unfortunately part of it, but seeing the race sheet results, we still know it was worth it!
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Bowbroom wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:58 am The rule is there to stop people attempting to fiddle as you are aware or at least should be. There are ETS systems that can be connected to your mobile phone to inform you when your bird arrives so that you can verify remotely, for non ETS users it’s tough luck if no one’s there then verification can’t happen, I used to get around this by having a friend stand in for me when I flew on my own.
We all have lives outside the sport, it just depends what your priorities are.
Of course if your still on rubbers you have no alternative but to be there. So can verify once timed.
Yes the newer ETS systems do connect to mobile phones informing of an arrival.
I think part of the reasoning behind the verification is to allow a provisional result to be put up the same day as the race, or with the NFU as the race unfolds. It does make it interesting to watch arrivals. By verifying within 30 minutes, or an hour in some cases, of your first arrival allows these provisional results to be put up. It takes a couple of weeks for the full results to be published, knowing and entering all birds timed. Of course with ETS this has actually made the full results much longer as all arrivals are potentially on the results. If no verification was done there wouldn’t be a result of any sorts before a couple of weeks after the race.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
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Winfort Lofts wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 1:32 pm I get why the rule is there, but these days with the ETS systems the security is far far better than clock have ever been, so far more unlikely to be interfered with.

I also work shifts, so I also occasionally miss out on seeing birds return. However as I'm sure we all know, racing pigeons is not just a weekend sport, and we look after them every day, so for some of us, not being there to see them home is unfortunately part of it, but seeing the race sheet results, we still know it was worth it!
I’m the same. As I have my own shop the only time I can really watch them arrive is if a holdover until Sundays as we are open 6 days a week. I do usually manage to disappear for a brief time when the birds are due but only really see the first couple arrive. After that it’s just a case of keeping on run out to see if anymore have returned. Not ideal when wanting to let the cocks in with the hens but no alternative for me.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
Diamond Dave
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My family know that Saturday is race day so thry never organise anything on Sat. Instead they organise things for a Sunday.
I get that I wont see my birds come but in the event of a holdover I think that the 30 min rule could be dropped or should be able to phone the sec and say dont disqualify my bird as I will be at a wedding or whatever.
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