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Avian Flu
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:30 pm
by Bowbroom
Poultry farmers are asking for a vaccination programme to protect their flocks, DEFRA are opposing it
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:02 am
by king
Bowbroom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:30 pm
Poultry farmers are asking for a vaccination programme to protect their flocks, DEFRA are opposing it
There are a few reasons why this is not a good idea. It will harm exports, a risk the virus mutates, and any vaccination would be a LIVE vaccine given via the water. And vaccination wouldn't actually prevent birds still catching the virus and transmitting it.
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:00 am
by Andy
king wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:02 am
Bowbroom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:30 pm
Poultry farmers are asking for a vaccination programme to protect their flocks, DEFRA are opposing it
There are a few reasons why this is not a good idea. It will harm exports, a risk the virus mutates, and any vaccination would be a LIVE vaccine given via the water. And vaccination wouldn't actually prevent birds still catching the virus and transmitting it.
The other trouble is the chickens are being intensively reared for food and egg production and there’s no guarantee that the vaccine wouldn’t get into the food chain.
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:59 am
by Murray
I didn't buy into the lie to make us all get multiple nRMA jabs last time.
With that history to work from. there is no way in hell they are going to suck me into lining up and getting anything they want stuck into my arm this time.
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:28 am
by Bowbroom
Then unfortunately, you will have no grounds for complaint if you, your family and friends contract and suffer from whatever disease the vaccine is intended to prevent or mitigate, I hope you don’t
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:37 am
by Murray
Bowbroom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:28 am
Then unfortunately, you will have no grounds for complaint if you, your family and friends contract and suffer from whatever disease the vaccine is intended to prevent or mitigate, I hope you don’t

Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:06 am
by Ian Evans
Bowbroom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:28 am
Then unfortunately, you will have no grounds for complaint if you, your family and friends contract and suffer from whatever disease the vaccine is intended to prevent or mitigate, I hope you don’t
Vaccines don't prevent you getting viruses, they just limit the impact on the individual. Also using the covid vaccine as an example; getting vaccinated doesn't stop you passing it into others despite the nonsense we were told.
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:22 am
by Murray
Ian Evans wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:06 am
Bowbroom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:28 am
Then unfortunately, you will have no grounds for complaint if you, your family and friends contract and suffer from whatever disease the vaccine is intended to prevent or mitigate, I hope you don’t
Vaccines don't prevent you getting viruses, they just limit the impact on the individual. Also using the covid vaccine as an example; getting vaccinated doesn't stop you passing it into others despite the nonsense we were told.
And the moment they try to suggest that an avian disease can be arrested by vaccinating humans is the moment we all need to go, NO NO NO.
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:39 am
by Ian Evans
king wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:02 am
Bowbroom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:30 pm
Poultry farmers are asking for a vaccination programme to protect their flocks, DEFRA are opposing it
There are a few reasons why this is not a good idea. It will harm exports, a risk the virus mutates, and any vaccination would be a LIVE vaccine given via the water. And vaccination wouldn't actually prevent birds still catching the virus and transmitting it.
Yes, the issue being if poultry are vaccinated then they may not shows symptoms. Those human poultry workers will then be at greater risk of contracting the virus. There have already been cases of such in the UK. The danger to humans then increases by giving the virus an opportunity to mutate and pass from human to human rather than bird to human.
Re: Avian Flu
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:44 am
by Bowbroom
I don’t think it will come to that unless people start falling of their perches

It’s an indisputable fact apart from those that like to believe in conspiracy theories that vaccination programmes if they are extensive enough provide so called “herd immunity, smallpox was eradicated that way (although instances have been discovered in remote areas) similarly Polio has virtually been eliminated in the Western world
Look at our game in the early 80’s we all knew someone in our area who’s birds had caught Paramyxo didn’t we? How many do you come across now?
Some people will believe in the benefits of vaccination and others will refuse to do so, it’s called the human condition.
ATB