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Can anyone help me out with the procedures of rule changes.
I went along to a recent regional meeting mandated to vote on a rule change. I was told that this wasnt done at a regional AGM as regional AGM's are for 'regional' business. So webt along to the preceeding meeting where the rule change was on the agenda.
So a vote of "for" was carried by the majority for the rule change. Now, I am being asked again to go along to the region AGM to vote again on the proposal.
This seems to me to be somewhat 'unconstitutional' but I don't understand the procedures.
Any guidance would be most welcome.

Sorry cannot help on this one, sure Mike, Neil or Andy will be able to

Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:11 am Sorry cannot help on this one, sure Mike, Neil or Andy will be able to

Not a clue on this kind of thing
I tend to go with what ever I’m told now with pigeon organisations
I had a period of frustration and now I find it best to sit back well it is for me

NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:00 am

Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:11 am Sorry cannot help on this one, sure Mike, Neil or Andy will be able to

Not a clue on this kind of thing
I tend to go with what ever I’m told now with pigeon organisations
I had a period of frustration and now I find it best to sit back well it is for me

Got me there Neil I thought you was well clued up with RPRA rules, my apologies I thought I remembered seeing you went to meetings etc but got it wrong

Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:14 pm

NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:00 am

Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:11 am Sorry cannot help on this one, sure Mike, Neil or Andy will be able to

Not a clue on this kind of thing
I tend to go with what ever I’m told now with pigeon organisations
I had a period of frustration and now I find it best to sit back well it is for me

Got me there Neil I thought you was well clued up with RPRA rules, my apologies I thought I remembered seeing you went to meetings etc but got it wrong

No Buster
I tried to put some views forward and costings to help local but then worked out it’s easier to go with the flow

I can only confirm how things should be done,
if any member wants to propose a RPRA rule change then
1. They must propose that their organisation adopts the change, if a majority is in favour then the proposition is forwarded to the Local region
2. The proposition will then be voted on at the Region AGM, if passed it would then be forwarded to Council
3. All propositions to Council should then be voted at a Region meeting called for that purpose
4. The region delegate/s will then be mandated on how to vote on each proposition at the RPRA AGM

Thanks Bowbroom. Thats kind of you to reply.
However, I am still a little confused by it.
Your reply seems to suggest that the proposition would require voting on 3 times (items 1,2 and 3 of your post)
- Am I reading that correctly?
As the delegate for the club who made the proposal, would I need to be involved in all 3 votes?
Appreciate any guidance.

I think that if you are person who proposed a rule then if your club voted in favour it would then be the delegates from your club to the region to vote in the way that your club has voted. If then passed at region level by all the clubs individual delegates then it goes to council. The ones that would vote at this stage would be the regional delegates.
So if you put forward the original proposal at club level you wouldn’t have a vote again unless you were a delegate for your club or for your region.
I think that is correct but Bowbroom will correct me if I’m wrong.

You would have voted at club level, if you are your clubs delegate to Region then you would attend the Region AGM as proposer of the change and vote to forward to Council, unless you are a Region delgate to Council, you would have no further involvement in voting, is your proposition the one you have alluded to previously ?

Aaah, thanks Bowbroom,
So item 1 of your post was at club level - understood now.
Ha, forgive me, I am not wishing to question your integrity in any way but not knowing your stance on "my previous allusion" I am a little reluctant to divulge the details of the proposal.
Can I explain that this was passed at club level and the proposition was sent off to the region by the club.
The proposition was then added to the agenda of a normal Regional meeting, preceeding the AGM. So, I went along as my club delegate to vote for it ( I was told that the agm was for "regional business" and that rule changes were RPRA business which is why it was on the agenda for that particular meeting)
In any case, the proposal received a majority decision
"for" the proposal.
Now, I am not sure whether I have to go along to the AGM to vote on it again.
It's all very confusing when you don't know the procedure but having voted on it once at the region meeting, it seems somewhat unethical to have to vote on it again.
Is this what you would expect?
Many thanks for your help