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Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:47 pm
by Andy
I’ve been letting the youngsters come out over the last week in the evenings. They have been just coming out onto the drop board and having the odd little flit around. This evening they got a bit more adventurous.
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They were getting more adventurous and flying up to the house and back down. Then a few of them took off. The old birds were out and some of them flew off as well. They were flying well with youngsters going always. Some came down, 3 landed on the old peoples flats near to us.
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At one point I was 9 out somewhere. Tonight I am still 3 out but I’m sure they are close bye. I’m not to worried as I often have youngsters having a night out when first flying off the loft. They will be hungry in the morning and I will have the old birds out just after 7am so I’m sure they will appear.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:56 pm
by Murray
It's always great to see the babies starting to get out!

I had one missing on Saturday night, a little one. I kept an eye out for it all day yesterday, and wasn't very hopeful :(
When I let them out it reappeared! So it cannot have been too far a way. Just got a little bit lost.

Your garden looks good, Andy.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:43 am
by Andy
All 3 are around here this morning sitting with the old birds. They haven’t come in yet but probably will by this evening.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:32 pm
by Buster121
Good to see all back mate

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:17 pm
by Andy
All youngsters are accounted for tonight. One of Pete’s came in late yesterday evening, leaving the 3 out. Today the remaining 3 have all come in, including Pete’s other one. The other 2 were 2 of my own. They should be fine now. They obviously know where the loft is.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:20 pm
by mark1
Andy, have you ever had any issue with cats or BOPs getting in with your open loft system? It's how I plan on flying.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:49 pm
by Andy
mark1 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:20 pm Andy, have you ever had any issue with cats or BOPs getting in with your open loft system? It's how I plan on flying.
Hi Mark. No I haven’t. I have lost the odd one to the hawk, but I think that would happen anyway even if only let out twice a day as the hawks soon learn when they are out. I do have some that either sit in the top tree behind the loft or on the house roof beside the loft. These can make good lookouts and if anything seen they soon take off and will often chase the hawk once in the sky. I have got a few cats around here and one ginger one that does get onto the loft sometimes but although the birds fly off they soon come back down when the cat has gone. It does run pretty quick if it sees anyone. I have got wire netting up around the back of the loft and a cat scarer pointing over the top of the loft but this cat doesn’t take any notice of that. But fortunately I haven’t had either a BOP or cat in the loft.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:21 am
by mark1
Andy wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:49 pm
mark1 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:20 pm Andy, have you ever had any issue with cats or BOPs getting in with your open loft system? It's how I plan on flying.
Hi Mark. No I haven’t. I have lost the odd one to the hawk, but I think that would happen anyway even if only let out twice a day as the hawks soon learn when they are out. I do have some that either sit in the top tree behind the loft or on the house roof beside the loft. These can make good lookouts and if anything seen they soon take off and will often chase the hawk once in the sky. I have got a few cats around here and one ginger one that does get onto the loft sometimes but although the birds fly off they soon come back down when the cat has gone. It does run pretty quick if it sees anyone. I have got wire netting up around the back of the loft and a cat scarer pointing over the top of the loft but this cat doesn’t take any notice of that. But fortunately I haven’t had either a BOP or cat in the loft.
Thanks Andy. Probably over thinking it as I've only seen one cat around here, but occasionally see the hen sparowhawk floating over the garden. Plenty time yet to think about it though.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:10 pm
by Trev
Andy wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:47 pm I’ve been letting the youngsters come out over the last week in the evenings. They have been just coming out onto the drop board and having the odd little flit around. This evening they got a bit more adventurous.

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They were getting more adventurous and flying up to the house and back down. Then a few of them took off. The old birds were out and some of them flew off as well. They were flying well with youngsters going always. Some came down, 3 landed on the old peoples flats near to us.

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At one point I was 9 out somewhere. Tonight I am still 3 out but I’m sure they are close bye. I’m not to worried as I often have youngsters having a night out when first flying off the loft. They will be hungry in the morning and I will have the old birds out just after 7am so I’m sure they will appear.
All looking good Andy, the birds look nice and relaxed. Pleased to hear all returned safely.

Re: Youngsters getting adventurous

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:33 pm
by Trev
mark1 wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:21 am
Andy wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:49 pm
mark1 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:20 pm Andy, have you ever had any issue with cats or BOPs getting in with your open loft system? It's how I plan on flying.
Hi Mark. No I haven’t. I have lost the odd one to the hawk, but I think that would happen anyway even if only let out twice a day as the hawks soon learn when they are out. I do have some that either sit in the top tree behind the loft or on the house roof beside the loft. These can make good lookouts and if anything seen they soon take off and will often chase the hawk once in the sky. I have got a few cats around here and one ginger one that does get onto the loft sometimes but although the birds fly off they soon come back down when the cat has gone. It does run pretty quick if it sees anyone. I have got wire netting up around the back of the loft and a cat scarer pointing over the top of the loft but this cat doesn’t take any notice of that. But fortunately I haven’t had either a BOP or cat in the loft.
Thanks Andy. Probably over thinking it as I've only seen one cat around here, but occasionally see the hen sparowhawk floating over the garden. Plenty time yet to think about it though.
Hi Mark I am down on the South Coast in West Sussex and also have my birds on an open loft. I do have problems with the Sparrow hawk and do unfortunately lose birds to her most years. Because of this I don't breed before March so that she is on the nest and out of the way before I have babies out on the loft and at the end of September after racing is over the birds are separated and the loft shut up for the winter. During this period the birds are only exercised at weekends. Thankfully I don't seem to have many cats near me but did have a random visit from a stoat a couple of years ago that killed half a dozen birds I had in a small shed, this shed was shut up but had a small hole in the floor that it got in through, thankfully it hasn't been back as these things will find a way in if they really want to.
The one thing you should consider when making the decision to go on an open loft is how your neighbours might respond, my birds do tend to sit around my neighbours roof and will go down in their garden. Thankfully they don't have cats and more importantly don't mind the birds but some people can get quite unpleasant about the pigeons.
All the best mate.