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Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:27 pm
by CHARLTON34
NeilA wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:38 pm
Selected in September Devo
Race team selected Sunday after the last old bird race in July all moved on straight away here
Results in the loft book decides all so it’s pretty much sorted with a couple of races to go
You may know by now I have no interest in strains / fashion
Worse thing for b me would be not moving on old birds then losing loads of ybs and ending up keeping old birds that were average through fear of only having half a dozen to race
I had 4 badly hit by peregrines this year I put one to stock I gave 3 fed winners away
I kept 3 old birds as the rest were average or ruined that was before I had raced a yb so it could have gone badly wrong but what went wasn’t to the standard I want
If you drop standards to fill a box I think it’s a error for sprinting same for stock
Hello NeilA, very true in what you've said in your post, I think that the only way forward, sentiment shouldn't play a part you need to be clinical .
Anthony Webster will probably say the same thing, if you could look back at the old posts from Chat then this has been visited on more than 1 occasion ,keep things moving forward young pigeons in the loft not old ones that haven't produced should be taken out, test & test them again is the way forward & I think next year I will be doing the same anything that doesn't tow the line will be gone .
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:49 pm
by Spieker-Loft
How far is considered Sprint / middle distance and /Long Distance ?
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:05 pm
by CHARLTON34
All are racing is done inland from 44/120mls not good at all to be honest.
Before Brexit the Combine used to race across the Channel from Carentan down to as far as Bergerac maybe longer, Andy on here will probably correct me if I'm wrong. But unfortunately it's not financially viable & member's not wishing to have vet's visits etc to comply.
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:44 pm
by CHARLTON34
I haven't got any hope that they will change just very disappointed with the approach from the Combine. Sorry to go of topic gents, yes to get back to it again keep things turning over, youth is the key & good well managed pigeons & a bit of luck.
Regards Dave.
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:45 pm
by CHARLTON34
Hello Neil, Andy would be in a better place to answer this question as he's flown the North program before a few year's ago. Think it was £1 a bird I stand corrected if I've got that wrong flying with the Combine in these short races, Andy is probably in 1 of the stronger clubs at present .
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:59 am
by Buster121
Andy wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:28 am
CHARLTON34 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:45 pm
Hello Neil, Andy would be in a better place to answer this question as he's flown the North program before a few year's ago. Think it was £1 a bird I stand corrected if I've got that wrong flying with the Combine in these short races, Andy is probably in 1 of the stronger clubs at present .
No hope of going North Neil. I would do but the only club anywhere near me racing North is the SW Lerwick club I think it’s called. They mark in Bristol and would be a 3 hour round trip for me. Also they aren’t taking any new members. The Dorset fed fly North but because I’m just over the border in Somerset I’m out of their radius.
I did race North a couple of years ago Dave and did ok but that was only for the year that the BICC, BBC, & CSCFC went North.
The combine are very unlikely to go North as it is predominantly dictated too by the big National and Classic flyers who are long distance flyers and just use the combine in preparation for the big races so don’t want to be going over 100 miles. The trouble here going East to West the furthest we can get is Ramsgate 168 miles on the East coast of Kent before they go into the sea
The combine charge £1 a bird for all races + a 10p club fee for all races. So that’s £1.10p for just 34 miles up to 108 miles. We had 11 races at 34 miles.
Yes Dave Glastonbury is probably the strongest club in the combine with some great members. We are still probably going to join the 3 counties next year and stay with the combine at least for another year.
On a different note and a bit more back to topic. Things are moving on quickly personally and we could be putting our shop and home up for sale in the spring and looking to move. Looking at moving down South Devon way which would mean I could still fly in the 3 counties and at least get around 200 miles. I am unlikely to re-join any of the classics and go back into distance racing as I do enjoy sprint racing. With all this in mind, and Neil I know I said I don’t keep stock birds lol, I have been offered and accepted 4 pairs of Lambrechts from a good friend of mine some of whom have already bred combine winners. So should add a few sprinters to my team for next young bird season wherever I might be at the time.
That could be a good move for you mate, get your feet up and relax a bit, hope your new stock birds do well for you and the previous owner
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:34 pm
by CHARLTON34
Hope your move will pay off & you get back to some kind of decent racing Andy in the new year, not having to put up with a crap race program/ training tosses, all the top flyer's that just use the Combine races as trainer's for the bigger races eventually will have nowhere to go if it carries on as previous year's, & if Glastonbury goes with the 3 Counties then i can see it folding altogether.
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:09 pm
by CHARLTON34
NeilA wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:38 pm
Selected in September Devo
Race team selected Sunday after the last old bird race in July all moved on straight away here
Results in the loft book decides all so it’s pretty much sorted with a couple of races to go
You may know by now I have no interest in strains / fashion
Worse thing for b me would be not moving on old birds then losing loads of ybs and ending up keeping old birds that were average through fear of only having half a dozen to race
I had 4 badly hit by peregrines this year I put one to stock I gave 3 fed winners away
I kept 3 old birds as the rest were average or ruined that was before I had raced a yb so it could have gone badly wrong but what went wasn’t to the standard I want
If you drop standards to fill a box I think it’s a error for sprinting same for stock
Hello Neil, I'm just looking at an old post Neil, correct me if I'm wrong but did you say on another thread that you didn't race yb this season just gone.
My question is if you've not raced the ybs how have you made your selection process which to keep, or are you keeping all of them.
Regards Dave.
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:49 pm
by CHARLTON34
Thanks Neil, that's a lot of pigeons to manage as well as ybs later on.
Thank you for your reply.
Re: Quality is a choice
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:22 pm
by Steve Howells
NeilA wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:53 pm
Use to race 20 cocks no more
Now I have 22 and there hens will now race nrcc mostly so 2 races a day for 4 or 5 weeks then I may send the hens to a combine with the 10 older cocks the 12 young cocks will be for the fed
Are the hens paired to the widowhood cocks Neil?