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Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:15 pm
by Devo1956
Line Breeding is effectively breeding to protect the qualities of one or two exceptional pigeons. This is trying to keep the percentage of genes in the offspring of the 'cornerstone stock bird' as high as possible.
So what are members thoughts on this subject?

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:24 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Devo1956 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:15 pm Line Breeding is effectively breeding to protect the qualities of one or two exceptional pigeons. This is trying to keep the percentage of genes in the offspring of the 'cornerstone stock bird' as high as possible.
So what are members thoughts on this subject?
Well. I used to think that for racing you should cross breed again and not in line. But over the past years i seen alot of breeders going total inbreeding even for racing
Usually blizzard king kittel gets paired up with kittel again and they all do perfect
And after seeing my uncle win 1st and 2nd ace bird in one of the biggest sections in germany with 2 youngsters bred from double grandson x double granddaughter josef so also complete inbreeding. im not to sure anymore if i care that much about cross breeding or in line for racing.

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:27 pm
by Devo1956
Quality breeding is important for racing pigeons because it helps ensure that the pigeons are healthy, recover quickly from exercise, and have a strong constitution. Pigeons that are frequently sick or require medication are unlikely to become champion racers or stock

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:28 pm
by king
Devo1956 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:15 pm Line Breeding is effectively breeding to protect the qualities of one or two exceptional pigeons. This is trying to keep the percentage of genes in the offspring of the 'cornerstone stock bird' as high as possible.
So what are members thoughts on this subject?
It should also be remembered that it will also keep any faults or bad traits in your pigeons. That said it is the practice used by most fanciers.

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:32 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Breeding is alot of trial and error anyways imo. We had a hen that hasn't breed any decent winner for several years with different cocks until the last 2 years we found a cock that seem to breed top youngsters with her and she's now given us several 1st with that cock

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:33 pm
by NeilA
I bred birds for stock from my best breeders pigeons that had produced 5 fed winners
But I thought about and to get 5 fed winners I must have bred maybe 30-35 from a pigeon so now I moved all them on and only breed from winners from the originals
Otherwise I’m breeding from the unknown so now I don’t bother

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:42 pm
by Devo1956
Spieker-Loft wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:32 pm Breeding is alot of trial and error anyways imo. We had a hen that hasn't breed any decent winner for several years with different cocks until the last 2 years we found a cock that seem to breed top youngsters with her and she's now given us several 1st with that cock
I would say it is the same with race horses, hit or miss in breeding a very fine balance. But i would say that is were the art of breeding comes into play.

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:47 pm
by NeilA
Only thing in my head is results Devo
Is he actual pigeon or its parents past that I have no interest in the pedigree
I cut the odds down

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:49 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Devo1956 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:42 pm
Spieker-Loft wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:32 pm Breeding is alot of trial and error anyways imo. We had a hen that hasn't breed any decent winner for several years with different cocks until the last 2 years we found a cock that seem to breed top youngsters with her and she's now given us several 1st with that cock
I would say it is the same with race horses, hit or miss in breeding a very fine balance. But i would say that is were the art of breeding comes into play.

100% i always keep in mind that im still Young and only been having pigeons myself since 3 years and i think for that i been doing pretty Well

Re: Type of breeding

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:52 pm
by Devo1956
NeilA wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:47 pm Only thing in my head is results Devo
Is he actual pigeon or its parents past that I have no interest in the pedigree
I cut the odds down
A very good point Neil, was that your aim when you started in the sport. I have known people who came into the sport, and left the sport a couple of years later. Maybe because of the fact, they did not understand the breeding side of the sport.