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Hello, what's members thoughts on wing lock .

Not had it mate
I know I guy that recommended a product from Botanicals he said it worked well

CHARLTON34 wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:22 pm Hello, what's members thoughts on wing lock .

In the 50+ years I've kept pigeons I've only ever had 1 bird have it. A mealy hen that was held over for 7 days at 360 miles. She dropped after 10 hours and had wing lock. She was never the same again.
I read many SPRINT fanciers often get this and can only assume it's something either they are giving the birds or it's a weakness in their birds. If my birds were getting it often I'd be looking for the cause, not a treatment.

You typically find this when birds have been confined to the loft during the winter period and then start back "moving" again pre-season

MIL wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:31 am You typically find this when birds have been confined to the loft during the winter period and then start back "moving" again pre-season

Mike then why does it only effect certain fancier's birds? If it was purely down to birds being confined then it would effect studs and those with stock lofts? Many have birds confined for YEARS and not just over Winter, and don't have this problem? I like many fanciers keep the birds in over Winter with zero troubles, have done for over 50 years.
And I also believe the stiffness caused by holdovers, is different to this 'wing lock' the sprint men get.

Not had it after winter or anytime
Can see the theory of a winter kept in being the reason but mine will be in now for 5 months

Devo1956 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:51 pm

NeilA wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:40 pm Not had it after winter or anytime
Can see the theory of a winter kept in being the reason but mine will be in now for 5 months

I think in winter months, weather permitting allows them to fly out. In which i did before finishing the sport. It's all about keeping the birds active in the winter season. A good thing is having a aviary for the birds to fly in and out through the day.

Unfortunately the sparrow hawks are already killing in the garden here a dove and what looked like a sparrow carried off before I could act in the last week

king wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:19 pm

MIL wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:31 am You typically find this when birds have been confined to the loft during the winter period and then start back "moving" again pre-season

Mike then why does it only effect certain fancier's birds? If it was purely down to birds being confined then it would effect studs and those with stock lofts? Many have birds confined for YEARS and not just over Winter, and don't have this problem? I like many fanciers keep the birds in over Winter with zero troubles, have done for over 50 years.
And I also believe the stiffness caused by holdovers, is different to this 'wing lock' the sprint men get.

They typically show signs of this in March and April when birds are being asked to use the muscle a lot when its not really had any test for 5-6 months

I never had it myself (and I was a sprinter) but i used to like to get mine out in the winter. Never in the wet/damp. But as long as it was dry I never cared how cold it was

And yes I know distance men who get it

MIL wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:48 pm

king wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:19 pm

MIL wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:31 am You typically find this when birds have been confined to the loft during the winter period and then start back "moving" again pre-season

Mike then why does it only effect certain fancier's birds? If it was purely down to birds being confined then it would effect studs and those with stock lofts? Many have birds confined for YEARS and not just over Winter, and don't have this problem? I like many fanciers keep the birds in over Winter with zero troubles, have done for over 50 years.
And I also believe the stiffness caused by holdovers, is different to this 'wing lock' the sprint men get.

They typically show signs of this in March and April when birds are being asked to use the muscle a lot when its not really had any test for 5-6 months

I never had it myself (and I was a sprinter) but i used to like to get mine out in the winter. Never in the wet/damp. But as long as it was dry I never cared how cold it was

And yes I know distance men who get it

I know it happens in both Sprint & Distances lofts Mike, I wasn't saying it only happens in Sprint lofts, although they do seem the most effected. I have to disagree with this being due to birds being confined. This 'Wing Lock' is a another relatively new thing. It wasn't around 20 years ago and many fancier still over Winter their birds in the same way they did then.
I don't a fancier myself who's birds have had this. My own thoughts are those that get this problem are doing something different to those that don't get it?. ie overmedication, or breeding off birds that have previously themselves had this condition.
I myself used to fly out over winter, but BOP stopped me doing this.

Precisely!!!

Fanciers keep their birds in now much more over winter than decades ago because the BoP threat now is so great
99/100 you hear of Wing Lock in March/April

Lee Painter used to get a small number with it each year. He only changed his wintering habits following my guidance and now hasn’t had it for 3 years

Same birds, same everything else you care to think of