worm wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:30 pm
there all pretty much the. same low protein keep blood thin and add fats in there 30 years ago you would have been a God as even the widowhood men were heavier and would have benefited from today's feeding but lots of birds haven't got the necessary body fat to get home if it goes wrong like it dies on more occasions than we would like nowadays years ago everyone fed high protine most of time and most turned up day after as they had the reserves to do it
Fats are high protein mate as well as fat
I think VL energy mixtures are 18 percent protein
I think the error isn’t feeding the fats instead of peas etc but just doing it heavy at the end of the week if it’s a headwind
I fed my babies in 20 percent energy mix
I only lost 2 in the 5 races
So there were getting some fats every day
I agree.
Stuffing fats into them at the end of the week is not the correct way to load them up. I think a proportion of fats in the feed at all time allows them to digest and load up. Safflower is about 16% protein so is able to replace a lot of peas in the diet.
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Murray wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:33 pm
I agree.
Stuffing fats into them at the end of the week is not the correct way to load them up. I think a proportion of fats in the feed at all time allows them to digest and load up. Safflower is about 16% protein so is able to replace a lot of peas in the diet.
Agree Murray
When mine come home they get energy mix only
Sunday I may add energy and VL base which is 16 per cent protein all small stuff for first feed
Then it’s back on 2 gerry or beyers Gaby
2 dupurative 1 energy
I can drop a dupurative Wednesday Thursday by 1 part if I think it’s going to be a hard day
1/4 ounce morning 1 ounce night young birds
Cocks 1/2 morning 3/4 night
Teaspoon hemp Wednesday
Thursday fill them then teaspoon hemp
Pretty basic but all easy to digest
Murray wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:33 pm
I agree.
Stuffing fats into them at the end of the week is not the correct way to load them up. I think a proportion of fats in the feed at all time allows them to digest and load up. Safflower is about 16% protein so is able to replace a lot of peas in the diet.
Agree Murray
When mine come home they get energy mix only
Sunday I may add energy and VL base which is 16 per cent protein all small stuff for first feed
Then it’s back on 2 gerry or beyers Gaby
2 dupurative 1 energy
I can drop a dupurative Wednesday Thursday by 1 part if I think it’s going to be a hard day
1/4 ounce morning 1 ounce night young birds
Cocks 1/2 morning 3/4 night
Teaspoon hemp Wednesday
Thursday fill them then teaspoon hemp
Pretty basic but all easy to digest
Gaby was a master of feeds, at all distances Neil.
The sport of racing pigeons, over time, has changed in different ways. The way we feed is one of the major factors in the sport, there are so many different brands of racing pigeon feeds. How do we know which one we should buy? What are we looking for to make our birds fly home in winning times?
Well so many top flyers of racing pigeons tell us different things, this is the best or that is the best. Racing pigeons over different distances, you have to have the right feed for that journey. Again time to look at different feeding systems, nutrition plays a big part of the sport. So what are we looking for? Well this is what one brand says,
Vanrobaeys Premium power
The new generation pigeon feed.
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The PREMIUM POWER range is now available worldwide, which gives you the chance to use this successful prize win- ning system.
So that is what one brand says, other brands may differ. The most important thing is, in the sport of racing pigeons. Enjoy the sport, and work to a system that works for you and your birds. Time is important in the partnership of yourself and your birds. You both get into a routine, which makes it more enjoyable. Along the way you will be told different things, take things onboard but try to find out what works for you and your birds.
So what do we know about the Vanrobaeys,
Quality Pigeon Feed
Vanrobaeys is and continues to be a family business that started producing pigeon feed in 1965. It has since grown into a major player that supplies many top Belgian and international racers with choice pigeon feed for their champions.
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The goal of Vanrobaeys is to provide as varied an assortment of pigeon feed as possible. Each period of the year comes with its own specific feeding priorities: a pigeon has different needs during moult than during racing or breeding season.
After all, a healthy pigeon gets almost everything from healthy feed, and this is our rationale for continually rethinking and expanding our approach to keep up with the needs of pigeons today… and we do this especially for our customers.
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I have chosen this brand myself, I found it to be a good quality feed. Also good advice given on feeding systems for different distances, which I found so important.
We are all looking for the birds that we race, to get out in front and maintain the speed needed. While other birds drop off the pace, now that is a need for speed.
NeilA wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:56 pm
What’s the carb fat protein ratio Devo
This is the joy of the topic Neil, when others get involved and start asking questions.
Premium Power Sport Nr. 187
Premium Power Sport
Premium power
Nutritional values
10,08% Fats
13,17% Proteins
7,65% Digestible proteins
56,9% Carbohydrates
Recommended for
Sprint
Middle distance
Long distance
Composition
Red French maize
Bordeau Cribbs maize
Small Cribbs maize
Yellow Cribbs maize
Wheat
Barley
Milo corn
Dari white
Oat peeled
Paddy Rice
Rice cargo
Cardy
Sunflower streped
Rapeseed
Hempseed
Millet wit
Canary seed
Tares
Mungbeans
Soya beans
Perilla seed
Lentils
Wild seeds
German Thistle seed
Sesam seed
Sneaky mix
Description
A modern racing mixture with the perfect balance between fats and proteins. Due to the high quality from the yellow Cribbs maize, Bordeaux Cribbs maize, red maize and the various seeds rich in fats, a real top mix!
The success of the mix hides in the fact that it supllies extra reserves without making your pigeons to fat. Top mix for widowhood cocks and young birds for the heavy work. For the long and heavy long distance we advise to supply at the end of the week extra Top Energy N°35.
Looks decent Devo
I think I would try to just get the carbs to 60 plus and protein to about 10-12 which can be done with probably just adding some dupurative for one sprint races
