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George

I'm sure I saw you post something yesterday about Dirk De Beer and Leideman

I'm buggered if I can find it now?

Is that re-posted or was it lingering somewhere?

He's got some tackle that Dirk De Beer

I didn;t think I could find it

That "Raissa" is a good hen, and if you've got them direct from her, "Arturo"and "Tila" then that's pretty strong

You see that "999" cock?

Sangers has the very good nest brother of that cock he calls "Son Goed Grijs 998" - one from the 998 is at 13,000 euro on PIPA at the mo




Son Goed Grijs 998’ x ‘Grizzle Dream’ are grandparents of

1. Nat. acebird middle dist. NPO 2023

1. prize - 1,529 birds

Also 2.-3.-3.-6. prize avg. +1,100 birds

At Ype Hemstra




‘Son Goed Grijs 998’ x ‘Grizzle Dream’ are grandparents of

4. Nat. Issoudun – 26,763 birds 2023

At Nathalie VD Merwe




‘Son Goed Grijs 998’ is one of the best ever from ‘Goed Grijs’

Grandfather of at least 17x 1. prize winners

1. prov. Quievrain – 25,743 birds

1. Arlon – 2,371 birds

1. Weert – 1,705 birds

1. Etroeungt – 1,299 birds

1. Arlon – 1,039 birds

1. Weert – 1,005 birds

Etc., etc.




‘Son Goed Grijs 998’ is father of Ype Hemstra’s breeder of

1. Nat. acebird middle dist. NPO 2023



‘Son Goed Grijs 998’ is father of ‘Grizzle Anaba’ K. & K. Meijers

1. prov. Quievrain – 25,743 birds



‘Son Goed Grijs 998’ is father of ‘Zizi’, breeder of Peter Admiraal’s

1. prize – 257 birds

1. prize – 197 birds

1. prize – 138 birds

1. prize – 132 birds

1. prize – 109 birds

No doubles, all prizes won as yearling



‘Son Goed Grijs 998’ is father of ‘André & Bert’s Gift’

- At Albert Roording (g.)mother of

1. NPO South / 2. Nat. S3 Sens – 8,750 birds

8. NPO Nanteuil – 7,551 birds

Winners of at least 6x 1. prize



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‘Goed Grijs’ is winner of

1. NPO Laon - 6,371 birds

1. Duffel - 5,821 birds 2 minutes lead

1. Heusden Zolder - 2,775 birds

1. Laon - 1,052 birds 2017

Total of 7x 1. prize




3 generations offspring ‘Goed Grijs’ are winners

1. Dutch Olympiad bird cat. G 2023 ‘Olympic Femke’ at Foppe Van Der Meer

1. Nat. acebird middle dist. NPO 2023 at Ype Hemstra

1. Nat. acebird middle dist. WBP 2023 ‘Olympic Femke’ at Foppe Van Der Meer

1. Nat. acebird allround WBP 2023 ‘Olympic Femke’ at Foppe Van Der Meer

1. Nat. acebird middle dist. PIPA Ranking 2023 ‘Olympic Femke’ Van Der Meer

1. Nat. acebird late tour WHZB/TBOTB 2019 ‘Speedy Grizzle’, at Eijerkamp

2. Nat. ace KBDB Sprint YL 2022 after loftmate at Dehon-Demonseau

2. Nat. young acebird sprint PIPA Ranking 2021 at Foppe Van Der Meer

9. Nat. acebird middle dist. PIPA Ranking 2022 at Gebr. Leideman

1. prov. acebird short dist. 2022 ‘Jitters’ at Eijerkamp

1. s-prov. acebird sprint 2019 at Gebr. Leideman

1. prov. Quievrain – 25,734 birds at K. & K. Meijers

1. prov. Beek en Donk – 15,023 birds at Foppe Van Der Meer

1. prov. Quievrain – 12,633 birds at Peter Jansen

1. prov. Zutphen – 11,284 birds at Foppe VD Meer

1. prov. Marche – 10,076 birds at Peter Jansen

1. prov. Heusden-Zolder – 7,320 birds at Peter Jansen

1. prov. Weert - 6,588 birds at Gebr. Leideman

1. I.prov. Etroeungt – 5,962 birds at Gebr. Leideman

1. prov. Menen – 5,548 birds at Eijerkamp

1. prov. Hannut - 5,477 birds at Gebr. Leideman

1. prov. Venlo - 4,429 birds at Gebr. Leideman

1. prov. Arlon – 3,722 birds at Peter Jansen

1. Pissanulok Thailand 333 km – 2,310 birds 2020 at Wasan & Akkrima Lofts

1. NPO South / 2. Nat. S3 Sens – 8,750 birds at Albert Roording

Many more massive winner & top prize winners in NPO/prov. racing

Ideally I'd like to be a bit closer to the big hitters, but you know what?

If the line is good and strong and the winners are free-flowing (certainly Leideman lines are winning in many different lofts) then the acid test for them is to see winners coming through generation after generation

This is where the likes of Heremans stands up to the test.

Very much so

So a G.Child of "Ace 820", "Raissa" and "Speedy Grizzle"

There's a lot brought to the table with those three