UkPigeonRacing

The only one I know is the one at Meditech

I remember a time when fanciers never used vets. I must have kept pigeons over 40 years before I ever went to a vet. The couple of times since I believe I just wasted my money. These vets/testers often ALWAYS find something wrong with the birds and get you to buy treatment from them.
I was always taught if you have a problem with a bird/animal go see somebody who breeds them be they budgies/rabbits or pigeons. Many will say you have to treat to win, but that simply isn't true fanciers won before using vets. I think any fancier constantly sing a vet and treating must be doing something wrong.
I await your replies

Logically you could say "fanciers won before using vets" because everybody was on the same playing field - nobody used vets

There's no doubting testing can be beneficial. You have to take it on board and align that with the performances that you're seeing though.

The best thing any good fancier has in his armoury is "observation".

Testing won't really tell you if your birds have respiratory for instance, but your eyes and ears will tell you if you're half-way smart

MIL wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:56 pm Logically you could say "fanciers won before using vets" because everybody was on the same playing field - nobody used vets

There's no doubting testing can be beneficial. You have to take it on board and align that with the performances that you're seeing though.

The best thing any good fancier has in his armoury is "observation".

Testing won't really tell you if your birds have respiratory for instance, but your eyes and ears will tell you if you're half-way smart

I totally agree Mike. If you are going to treat, it should ONLY be done after testing. And observation is key. The less birds you keep the easier it is.

Devo1956 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:08 pm while i was in Germany, i was being told about the sexing of young birds. They send 3 feathers from the youngster, to a local lab it cost 10 euros. DNA cost 150 euros but you can get it done in Checlosavaka for 100 Euros.

Cheaper still in Netherlands

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Thank you for your interest in the services of Gendika. For parentage testing we need plucked feathers from the breast of the pigeons. You can send the feathers to our laboratory in bags/envelopes (one bag/envelope per pigeon of course) with the ring number on it. The results of the DNA tests will be stored in your database at Gendika, so in future you can use the results of your breeders again to test parentage of new youngsters.


The costs are:
DNA profile without sex determination:
- 1-10 pigeons in one order: 35 euro excl VAT per pigeon
- More than 10 pigeons in one order: 30 euro excl VAT per pigeon



DNA profile with sex determination:
- 1-10 pigeons in one order: 45 euro excl VAT per pigeon
- More than 10 pigeons in one order: 40 euro excl VAT per pigeon

(So for instance: one youngster with sex determination, plus the father, plus the mother will cost 45 + 35 + 35 = 115 euro excl VAT)


The address of our laboratory is:
GENDIKA BV
Van Beresteijnstraat 22B
9641 AB Veendam
The Netherlands

Please enclose a letter with your order in which you indicate which parentage you would like to have checked.

Best regards,

Devo1956 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:08 pm while i was in Germany, i was being told about the sexing of young birds. They send 3 feathers from the youngster, to a local lab it cost 10 euros. DNA cost 150 euros but you can get it done in Checlosavaka for 100 Euros.

How does this help you in any way? If you've hatched the bird and allowed it to be raised to an age where it has feathers, what you then going to do with it after finding out it's sex? If it's young cocks your after simply sex-link your pairings you can spot the cocks the moment they feather at ZERO cost.

Its to authenticate the parentage - peace of mind

MIL wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:54 pm Its to authenticate the parentage - peace of mind

I've always thought if you have doubts about the honesty of the seller you shouldn't really be buying from them? And unless you do test yourself to compare to the DNA certificate your given, your still just talking his word for any piece a paper you are given.