RPRA Rule Changes

[Diamond Dave]

Goose, I do hope you are still looking in so that we may reply to your post
I have been to just one Regional meeting and have learned so much about the current state of the RPRA and I can confidently say that is in very real danger of splitting into factions. The current climate is certainly not one of harmony but more of discord.

There are apparantly 3 regions that have not paid last years levy! What will the RPRA do about it, tell me, what can they do about it?

There is one region that paid the levy then emptied their bank account to give all the monies back to the clubs.

These are all potential break-away groups that are voting with their feet

My own region is sitting on 30k (thats before the new membership fees are taken) will they distribute that back amongst the members and clubs? All the regions should all be non-profit making so how is it fair that the RPRA levy their members in the first place when the regions are potentially sitting on half a million pounds between them?
The Rpra is already in danger of going into meltdown, when all the above factors come to light it is likely it will do just that before the season has even started.
I would ask if you would re-consider your "parting statement" as the reality is that the new proposals will actually save the RPRA.

[Ian Evans]

How did you come to leave your employment with the RPRA? Totally understand if it's not something you want to put on an open forum I'm just curious. My previous comment about settling scores certainly wasn't aimed at anyone in particular so I find your response interesting

So if your comment isn't aimed at anyone what does my leaving the employment of the RPRA have to do with anything ?

My comment was not aimed at anyone hence why nobody's previous comments were quoted but I had a feeling you would feel the need to reply and I was just curious as to why? I may know more on the subject than you think but I'll be saying no more on this particular topic in fact I won't even be clicking on the thread again. If these changes are implemented which I think they may well be this time, in my opinion I think there's a very good chance there won't even be an RPRA in 12 months time. But you people can bash on with your saviours mentality, only time will tell if you are correct and I, like id imagine anyone else who enjoys this sport hope yous can fulfil what yous are promising to do. I'll finish again with a word of warning to folk, all that glitters isn't gold.

You should know everything there is to know on the subject because it's been widely publicised. My last annual review and the content within should be enough. In short, it includes. I was unwilling to keep trying to swim with my hands tied behind my back. The regions and individuals blocking change in what i beleive, was the interest of self preservation. You may think you know more than I realise but I'm not sure what else there is to know. I seem to recall your link to a senior council member. I maybe wrong. . I would love to know how you have come to that conclusion or what you have been told.
The fact you won't be clicking on the thread again tells me all I need to know. Your basing your opinion on one side. I'm open to having a healthy debate on the position with anyone whether on this site or other social media platforms. People have different opinions which I respect but it seems some won't respect others opinion but instead spread lies about those who have a different opinion in an attempt to undermine them or their opinion. ps my last comment does not refer to you.

In all my talks about the subject I habe encouraged members to engage in voting on the proposals whether for or against.


BUT if you want to chat offline. Here's my mobile 07508297893. That invitation goes for anyone..

[Ian Evans]

Thought I hadn’t missed it. Clearly that’s your opinion others may have a different view.

It’s now all down to what happens on the 28th, I suspect it might not be straight forward

It's actually down to what happens before the 28th. I mean at region meetings where councillors will be mandated. A small but important point as many don't realise they can have a say in the current democratic process never mind how outdated I beleive that system to be.

[Bowbroom]

Hope you are keeping well.
I must congratulate you on the time and effort you have put in to formulate the propositions and to secure support from the EM region.
You are right of course, the AGM will only reveal which way the Regions delegates have been mandated to vote at least we would hope so.
ATB

[Ian Evans]

Hope you are keeping well.
I must congratulate you on the time and effort you have put in to formulate the propositions and to secure support from the EM region.
You are right of course, the AGM will only reveal which way the Regions delegates have been mandated to vote at least we would hope so.
ATB

I am well thank you. I'm not sure of your real identity but in any case I wish you well too.

I want to make people aware that the proposals were put together following requests from individuals around the country in response to the imposed levy. Although I am 100% behind them and did pull the rules changes together; I did so at the initial request of people asking how do we implement the Hall report. I just went one step further and removed the regions as well. I am passionate about it and firmly beleive it's the right way to go. That's just an opinion though and I'm aware others have different opinions. The difference is that I haven't seen a proper 'argument ' put together to support keeping the status quo.

[Ian Evans]

What are the chances that all clubs and the regions are going to have meetings to get mandates in before the AGM Ian? I can see these propositions being lost because the majority of fanciers won’t even have had the chance to have their say. Certainly heard nothing about it around here apart from on this forum.
I hope it gets through.

All regions should have meetings although from what I have seen and heard it seems it doubtful that the SW region will do so. They don't seem to be functioning..so we will have a proportion of the members who haven't been given the opportunity to vote.

As for clubs that down to each club. The proposals have been published as far as 'we' as a group behind the proposals can do so. It's also in the BHW and RPRA website. Personally I think more could be done by the RPRA to bring them to the attention of the general membership.

[Bowbroom]

There’s little or no chance of the consultation happening as intended, how many members in your club could care less?
The majority are apathetic and simply want to race their birds without too much fuss or bother, there’s not a lot of point in bemoaning this fact because it’s human nature, just look at the % that can be bothered to vote in General or local elections.
If electronic voting was implemented the result would be the same, the majority wouldn’t bother.
I just hope that whoever holds authority after the AGM be it Council of Regions or an Executive committee of 5 people that they manage responsibly and do whatever is in the best interests of the members

[Ian Evans]

There’s little or no chance of the consultation happening as intended, how many members in your club could care less?
The majority are apathetic and simply want to race their birds without too much fuss or bother, there’s not a lot of point in bemoaning this fact because it’s human nature, just look at the % that can be bothered to vote in General or local elections.
If electronic voting was implemented the result would be the same, the majority wouldn’t bother.
I just hope that whoever holds authority after the AGM be it Council of Regions or an Executive committee of 5 people that they manage responsibly and do whatever is in the best interests of the members

I agree but even if the same amount vote under the new proposed structure then it will have still achieved a saving and will therefore be far more financially efficient.

[CHARLTON34]

My region South West what a shambles, emailed the secretary on the 23rd asking about the proposal's & she emailed back a very short reply that a meeting hadn't been arranged yet, & still not had any feedback about this since.
We have are club AGM on the 9th February I expect nothing will get done to even have a discussion or go to the meeting of the region.
Regards Dave.

[Bowbroom]

Your region should have confirmed to your club when the meeting is to vote on propositions is, ask your club to call a meeting to discuss, elect a delegate to Region and instruct them to attend the Region meeting and vote according to the clubs wishes.