Looks a bit tricky Saturday

[MIL]

Red Mills is just one source of supplement in use at the Yard

All perfectly legal and above board of course

https://www.redmillshorse.com/en-sa/abo ... s-success/

[MIL]

In an open forum we all have different ideas and opinions

From my chair everything above that I've written "in my opinion" is honest and true

[MIL]

You're talking to a bloke who used to race 16 cocks and 35 YB in a 47 Club Fed sending 10,000 birds a week (and I was Fed Champion)

If you're sending 10,20,50,100 it don't matter. I'd still be looking for an average "drop" of around 1/3rd of the entry sent

That's not unreasonable. Above that % is excpetional

[NeilA]

Take posts Mikes he put on
Now that blokes tried to help you he’ will help anyone that wants to win
He helped me
It’s golden advice
Yet you post how fanciers who get a good drop don’t get them on crap days
But you never and you don’t get them in good days
You have made reason after reason not to try Mikes advice not even a 5 mile training toss 3 nights that I said try
Yet have a pop at people who get a drop
That’s not right is it

You totally miss understood my comment Neil. I wasn’t saying that fanciers who get good drops don’t get them on crap days as you state. I said they don’t get them in big numbers on these days and generally have more missing or very late in these races. These top fanciers will still get the leaders but those that have just followed their loft mates in earlier races.
You say I don’t get them on good days. I was top flyer in a 40 member club when I lived in Sussex. I moved to Cornwall and was top flyer in the club there. I have worked with livestock all of my life and was manager of one of the highest yielding dairy herds in the country. So to suggest I know nothing about racing or livestock isn’t true. Lucky you if you have time to put everything into your pigeons. Since moving to Somerset in 1999 and having my own business, firstly in farming and for the past 20 years with the shop I don’t get much time. I had 12 years out of the sport before coming back into it in 2016. At first I was aiming at just the nationals and classics at the distance but since the problems of trying to race over the channel I changed my plan. I joined the Glastonbury club last year and started my move to more sprint racing. Yes I didn’t get the best out of them last year although they didn’t do too bad. These are basically still my distance birds. I decided to change things during the winter changing to widowhood. I just have 12 widowhood boxes. I don’t have stock birds so my young bird team has to come from the first round from the races meaning I can’t breed many youngsters. Things were going ok until early in the season when we had the shock of our mum dying. Just the following week my wife’s aunt was taken into hospital. Roxanna spent most of the next 2 weeks at the hospital with me having to go down there straight from work after running the shop on my own all day. We haven’t had a holiday for 19 years, work 6 days a week, I don’t even get more than half an hour on a Saturday to hopefully see the first couple drop while leaving the wife in the shop. So yes lucky all you that get the chance of seeing your birds return. The only day we get off is a Sunday. The last 3 Sunday’s, and probably the next 3 at least, we are having to spend the day going back and forth to the dump clearing out Roxanna’s aunts house. I have much more important things to think about and needing of my time at present than pigeons.
So yes I am very offended by these comments.

If it’s crap day at 1000yom for example how is anyone going to have 20 together so you saying it’s strange how they don’t get big drops on days like that is pointless it’s a daft statement
As for work to be honest I do more hours than most so you can’t say who works more than you or me as we don’t know
It’s obviously easier if you don’t work or have partners we don’t but you do work at your home / loft
I make time for my pigeons 530 am today work by 715 so leave at 650
home 530 be pigeons to 715/30 then to mums to help care for her I stay to 945/10 or it’s where I sleep 3-4 nights a week to be in hand to assist her as she has kidney failure and partly blind so don’t tell me I have time for my pigeons I make that time
If you win all that where you raced before then you should know the pigeons you have are not right for the job in hand now
12 good widowhood’s breed 24 ybs
So saying you had no ybs or words like that is down to you not anyone else
I don’t think I said you no nothing about how to race though I may say you dont understand drops as you don’t but that’s different

[Buster121]

What a great and diverse sport is pigeon racing, we all have our own methods and ways but we also listen and take advice from others, or even try there systems which may or may not work but at the end of the day, we all have our own opinions and we should respect each others after all, all roads lead to Rome, no-one knows what it is like in some one elses shoes until they have stood in them we all have things that stop us doing or wanting to do things, two things I observe and that is Respect and Opinions of others, no way is right and no way is wrong

[NeilA]

I don’t see where anyone told you that you don’t know how to race pigeons maybe it reads like that ?

I said you don’t understand big drops as you have posted what you did which to me means you can’t
I have also said your not going to win without training and you have the wrong pigeons now ,but you know that anyway

I also know that we have a expert in Mike that would help I text him things that are in my head regular or if I’m thinking this could go either way and he never fails to help
I already have a plan to Improve my cocks system that he’s thinking over for me
He probably thinks I’m bonkers but he always helps with advice even though half of what I think is pointless

[MIL]

I know you've had several return injured Neil from the weekend

In Phil's Fed you'll remember I got him to leave all the cocks home and he only sent 12 (1 still missing from 4pm Saturday)

Birds reported from his Fed race include :

1 x Halesowen (Birmingham)

1 x Cheshire

5 x Yorkshire

1 x Leek (Staffs)

1 x Telford (Shropshire)

1 x Hertfordshire

1 x Cannock (Staffs)

1 x Abergavenny

1 x Dudley (West Mids)

[NeilA]

I don’t see where anyone told you that you don’t know how to race pigeons maybe it reads like that ?

I said you don’t understand big drops as you have posted what you did which to me means you can’t
I have also said your not going to win without training and you have the wrong pigeons now ,but you know that anyway

I also know that we have a expert in Mike that would help I text him things that are in my head regular or if I’m thinking this could go either way and he never fails to help
I already have a plan to Improve my cocks system that he’s thinking over for me
He probably thinks I’m bonkers but he always helps with advice even though half of what I think is pointless

I don’t know what your trying to say about big drops and saying I can’t understand them Neil??

That’s cool

[NeilA]

4 injured from Saturday 3 underneath 1 5 flights gone in one wing

Here are 2

2

[MIL]

I don’t see where anyone told you that you don’t know how to race pigeons maybe it reads like that ?

I said you don’t understand big drops as you have posted what you did which to me means you can’t
I have also said your not going to win without training and you have the wrong pigeons now ,but you know that anyway

I also know that we have a expert in Mike that would help I text him things that are in my head regular or if I’m thinking this could go either way and he never fails to help
I already have a plan to Improve my cocks system that he’s thinking over for me
He probably thinks I’m bonkers but he always helps with advice even though half of what I think is pointless

Sorry Neil, I totally missed this post

I think you're onto a good idea with the cocks

The bit that you might find emotionally challenging is if the cocks racing ability is impacted by the hens racing too

So, it's a bit of a fact finding mission

Me, I'm never afraid to experiment because its only by doing this that you learn




Take Phil we're on a completely different YB feeding regime this year

It's not for me to be honest, I feel out of control.

I gave Phil the option to revert back at the weekend but he's happy with the new regime at the mo, so we'll continue that way

But the judges scorecard will be assessed at the end of the YB season you can be assured of that