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MIL wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:35 pm I know Dave Staddon raced from Blandford this weekend and won his Club
Looks like that is Andy’s fed thing then as I’m sure they are in the same club
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Dunno that Club result Neil, I only know he raced Blandford and won his Stoney Cross club
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NeilA wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:34 pm
MIL wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:12 pm No idea Neil

I "think" there were separate Sectional liberations this week (A & B) but I'd stand corrected
I see
Looking at the distance it must have been extremely short for Andy in Somerset
17 miles 907 yds for me Neil. I’m NNW of the liberation site. Winners flying 84 miles due West. Richard flying 55 miles WSW of liberation site but in second lib. Released in a NE wind.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
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Like I said on this thread in Februaty Neil, Rich Goodier is a competent enough flier

First time of asking at the weekend :

Blandford 20/04/25
A great start to our racing season with a convoy of 1625 birds being released in 2 liberations Very good returns in most areas & some exceptional birds making great speeds in the light Norrh East wind
Massive Well done to our 2 section winners
Section A Richard “Big Bear” Goodier on 1794 ypm
Section B Peter “Pretty boy” Reilly on 1648 ypm
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Andy wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:20 pm
NeilA wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:34 pm
MIL wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:12 pm No idea Neil

I "think" there were separate Sectional liberations this week (A & B) but I'd stand corrected
I see
Looking at the distance it must have been extremely short for Andy in Somerset
17 miles 907 yds for me Neil. I’m NNW of the liberation site. Winners flying 84 miles due West. Richard flying 55 miles WSW of liberation site but in second lib. Released in a NE wind.
Did you bother to send Andy being only 17 miles
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MIL wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:56 am Like I said on this thread in Februaty Neil, Rich Goodier is a competent enough flier

First time of asking at the weekend :

Blandford 20/04/25
A great start to our racing season with a convoy of 1625 birds being released in 2 liberations Very good returns in most areas & some exceptional birds making great speeds in the light Norrh East wind
Massive Well done to our 2 section winners
Section A Richard “Big Bear” Goodier on 1794 ypm
Section B Peter “Pretty boy” Reilly on 1648 ypm
Seems a very good fancier
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NeilA wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:02 am
Seems a very good fancier
Yes Neil, Richard's a very good fancier with very good birds.

I know this better than most because I know precisely what he has at Stock having sold for him on Excelsior for the last few years.

I'm not gonna sit here and say he'll win the Three Counties every week because nobody will do that. Only a pr!ck would suggest that, because the wind will influence where the leading birds ought to be.

All in all though any fancier worth his salt should just be as early as he possibly can be on any given day, and in that regard he'd rarely let me down

His good fancier status is only rubber-stamped by the fact he's had various 1st Sections with the NFC too
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It’s mad to me the radius I know there are less fanciers in the South west and that it’s coming here as we are now having Amal races as a trial a few weeks with a 45/50 mile east to west front
It just seems strange going from our 12 mile front of the past
You do all the work in the week and the wind decides the race where before I viewed it as true sprint racing into a tight radius
I can see more and more what Mark meant when he said to me racing will soon only be fair over 150 miles as at least the best can have time to get away
To be racing the distances Andy is seems pointless to me into a wide area
I think I would train 25 miles instead of sending to a 17 mile race
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I think it's reasonable to say Neil that the shorter the race the more the wind will factor where the leading birds ought to be

The onus is on the fancier (and bird) then to be the best that they can be when they have an edge

Often a fancier will win and you might heard say "Well he should win it on that wind".

That's a little disrespectful in my eyes because very often there's other lofts around the winner (close enough anyway) and they never took advantage of the edge like the winner did

So, you've just gotta be the best that you can be

Sometimes you don't get the rub of the green (like you on Race 1), and hopefully sometimes you do
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MIL wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:26 am I think it's reasonable to say Neil that the shorter the race the more the wind will factor where the leading birds ought to be

The onus is on the fancier (and bird) then to be the best that they can be when they have an edge

Often a fancier will win and you might heard say "Well he should win it on that wind".

That's a little disrespectful in my eyes because very often there's other lofts around the winner (close enough anyway) and they never took advantage of the edge like the winner did

So, you've just gotta be the best that you can be

Sometimes you don't get the rub of the green (like you on Race 1), and hopefully sometimes you do
Agree still got to be good enough to use the wind to your benefit
Just with radius becoming so big like say ones like Norfolk and Suffolk or Peterborough where there 50 miles or like Andy’s it seems a lot of work and then it’s taken out your hands on a Saturday so you waiting for birds that cant win the fed due to wind from sprint races
When the radius was tight you could get over the wind issue
It’s coming here soon as we are on our arse for birds I think we are 450 a week down on just 3/4 years ago
Plus half flying north half flying south locally is no help to the situation
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