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Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:06 pm
by NeilA
We have a real ace fancier in Mike on here happy to give advice for free
None of us have won what he has so trying to compare results would be daft we are just not in his league so why try to make out we are let your pride go and read his advice
Why not make use of him like Dave said in earlier post it’s a great way to learn even if you had pigeons years but got stuck in a rut or new to it
If your lazy or finding a reason to avoid training or chores because next doors dogs ill he won’t help you he has no time for that so your wasting your time asking
He had me training every night for 10-12 weeks last summer after a hard days work I prayed for rain somedays but he said put the effort in and your get rewards it’s only a few weeks
I did get the rewards and I don’t have super modern pigeons that cost a fortune
What you need to understand with Mike is he wants to win races he isn’t giving advice to get a bird to 10 years old and thinking it’s a achievement when in his world it should be gone years ago and I can agree , he doesn’t see why that bird has a perch there not pets
I have learnt to be strict if they don’t score 2 or 3 times in the feds top 3 percent by the end of the yearling stage they go as there here to sprint not to mature for 500 miles so they have to win breeders the same
Now Andy didn’t listen when Mike told him how to improve ybs by little training flights so he has 12 cocks how many have scored in the top 3per cent of the fed at the end of the yearling stage 3 times ? Would they be in Mikes loft would the ybs not have been trained so there like arrows or was they left to be pulled all over the place in a Saturday
That’s surely advice worth taking
Two things there I know will frustrate Mike as to him there such obvious things to do plus it would improved Andy’s team by making room
The last thing this site needs is to Mike to say stuff it as let’s be honest it wasn’t the most active site before
Make use of him where can you get a real ace to help you for free let’s not think we are equal or better than him as none of us sprint like he did
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:08 pm
by Devo1956
Diamond Dave wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:13 am
I can't tell you how good the site is for me, with all you aces giving me brilliant advice.
And what I like most is that its freely given in a friendly and helpful way and while not many of us know each other a bit of friendly banter has got to be good for the site and for most ppls frame of mind as long as nobody takes it too seriously.
Dave this is how the site as always been, and to be honest good flyers and breeders of the birds. They should be giving advice to others to keep the sport buzzing, yesterday I was talking to a local flyer, and he told me that the birds I sold to a local flyer. was breeding top fed winners. I was pleased to hear of this, it gave me a buzz because I knew what pairings would be good, and those pairs are producing the winners.
It cost nothing to be nice, and that is the way life should be.
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:09 pm
by NeilA
I think Andy used the same thing to Mikes post earlier Buster on another topic and obviously Andy said there breeding winners etc so Mike used it
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:24 pm
by Buster121
NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:09 pm
I think Andy used the same thing to Mikes post earlier Buster on another topic and obviously Andy said there breeding winners etc so Mike used it
OK thanks
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:28 pm
by Buster121
NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:06 pm
We have a real ace fancier in Mike on here happy to give advice for free
None of us have won what he has so trying to compare results would be daft we are just not in his league so why try to make out we are let your pride go and read his advice
Why not make use of him like Dave said in earlier post it’s a great way to learn even if you had pigeons years but got stuck in a rut or new to it
If your lazy or finding a reason to avoid training or chores because next doors dogs ill he won’t help you he has no time for that so your wasting your time asking
He had me training every night for 10-12 weeks last summer after a hard days work I prayed for rain somedays but he said put the effort in and your get rewards it’s only a few weeks
I did get the rewards and I don’t have super modern pigeons that cost a fortune
What you need to understand with Mike is he wants to win races he isn’t giving advice to get a bird to 10 years old and thinking it’s a achievement when in his world it should be gone years ago and I can agree , he doesn’t see why that bird has a perch there not pets
I have learnt to be strict if they don’t score 2 or 3 times in the feds top 3 percent by the end of the yearling stage they go as there here to sprint not to mature for 500 miles so they have to win breeders the same
Now Andy didn’t listen when Mike told him how to improve ybs by little training flights so he has 12 cocks how many have scored in the top 3per cent of the fed at the end of the yearling stage 3 times ? Would they be in Mikes loft would the ybs not have been trained so there like arrows or was they left to be pulled all over the place in a Saturday
That’s surely advice worth taking
Two things there I know will frustrate Mike as to him there such obvious things to do plus it would improved Andy’s team by making room
The last thing this site needs is to Mike to say stuff it as let’s be honest it wasn’t the most active site before
Make use of him where can you get a real ace to help you for free let’s not think we are equal or better than him as none of us sprint like he did
The site was quiet but active not like some that went to the wall and most go quiet in the off season
I agree Neil as I did say but he nobody should judge anybody as at the end of the day there choice, Mike does give great advice and he has achieved great things and as far as I can see no-one is thinking or saying they are equal or better end of day we are all same but different, this is my last comment on this topic
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:38 pm
by NeilA
I think Andy does kind of try to inform Mike of previous history I’m not sure why but like I say none of us should bother as he will just list 3/4 factual results and blow us away
Like I say it’s not worth it just accept it and learn from him
It’s been like it for a while Buster I could see this coming
All I am saying Mike would help Andy but Andy seems to prefer to challenge or compare himself to him which in pigeons is daft for any of us to do
It’s a great shame to see a bust up on the site although atleast it isn’t me this time that’s one positive
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:59 pm
by Devo1956
Neil i would say Mike will give advice to members, but to be honest we all do it our own way. That is what the sport is all about, we will work our own system that we feel works for our birds and our daily life.
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:49 pm
by NeilA
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:59 pm
Neil i would say Mike will give advice to members, but to be honest we all do it our own way. That is what the sport is all about, we will work our own system that we feel works for our birds and our daily life.
True
But he’s been a serial winner it’s a bit different to me or you giving advice isn’t it
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:57 pm
by Devo1956
NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:49 pm
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:59 pm
Neil i would say Mike will give advice to members, but to be honest we all do it our own way. That is what the sport is all about, we will work our own system that we feel works for our birds and our daily life.
True
But he’s been a serial winner it’s a bit different to me or you giving advice isn’t it
Neil, some people like to do it there own way, for me I would go and buy what I thought I needed. Now mike may have good contacts, but I would still go my own way. Its the same with different racing systems, they work for some and some they don't. So advice is good if you wish to use it. no question of that.
Re: Watch look and learn.
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:39 pm
by NeilA
I’m not knocking your way Devo of trying to win the one lofts I wouldn’t have a clue how to go about it as it doesn’t interest me it does you so I have no knowledge on them
I’m just saying his record against yours mine or anyone on here is a different level
You never won races like him and I don’t
I just couldn’t dream of comparing myself to him and others shouldn’t on here
It’s just some kind of pride or rose tinted glasses looks a bit daft to me
