Young birds

[Chris1978]

Goi g take them off the darkness for a few days see if does anything for them pluss goi g worm and canker them

[The Maltster]

Goi g take them off the darkness for a few days see if does anything for them pluss goi g worm and canker them

If you take em off the darkness now they won't be in good feather for the later races, and when you do take em off the dark, you normally do it gradually.
If you go down the route of brushing them up, pick your days, not like today with these blustery winds. With your non darkness ybs flying ok, when they're up and flying round home, then try and brush them up, be careful not to frighten the non darkness babies.
I've been in the same boat, we never did frighten them up, they went up eventually, it just might be the moult?
If you're not too bothered about the latter races where the money is, I wouldn't bother with darkness, it's a fact that natural ybs tend to fly and range alot earlier?
Good luck whatever you do

[Chris1978]

Will do they will go when they are ready thanks

[Anthony webster]

Not telling u how to suck eggs chris basket darkness baby's up take em 1 mile let them go 20 secs apart 1 at a time don't take long u might get 4,5 join together after 3 times move another mile double the distance each time once they had 3x6 mile tosses u can train basket at a time u will lose very little birds ,iv done this and had birds at the coast over 150 miles before there 11 weeks old ,,loft flying is nice but means nothing had baby's fly for 4 hours win nothing had baby's fly 15 mins n win nearly every yb race ,
But trust me on this have few handfuls pinhead oats waiting for them feed once home ,all ways toss 20 mins after there dinner time so they rocket home ok

[Anthony webster]

I like to tran when ybs start to go off Anthony just for 2 weeks then I think they have a brain after that I think I can train in confidence straight to 5 miles 3 there then 15 miles

But nothing against your way just different ideas
My birds are natural though
Would you do the same with naturals ?

It's not 100percent my way my way was wean first week may ,train the week they come of dark there 9 weeks old ,but iv had baby's weaned June n managed to get them in racing by doing this method it was taught to me by a brilliant flyer .

[Chris1978]

Got them on light feed now still not wanting to fly just sit on loft roof fly from one to other loft seson finished if I don't get these flying realy stressed me out now

[Anthony webster]

Got them on light feed now still not wanting to fly just sit on loft roof fly from one to other loft seson finished if I don't get these flying realy stressed me out now

U won't listen ,take em for a toss ,,there mugging u off ,,if I have a yb that pixxes me off it gets taken 5 miles on its own ,its got 2 choices come home or go live else where ,,

[Chris1978]

They not been up flying around loft yet lazy not had this before

[Chris1978]

Going give them few days on diet corn and try it

[Anthony webster]

If ya nervous basket them toss them from front garden ,next day end of street next day local park next day 1 mile with in a week u have them flying