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Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:59 pm
by CHARLTON34
I spoke with Ian Evans before Christmas, think this will be the last throw of the dice from what they hope will be implemented & that the RPRA will be able to be put on a more sustainable footing & a positive outcome for the future.
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:59 am
by CHARLTON34
Morning Andy, so an update from Ian today, he will be doing a YouTube video next week at some point to discuss this. Hopefully with further meetings in the regions to vote on the proposals & then mandate their councillors to vote accordingly at the AGM .Last throw of the dice in my mind to change & stop this stagnation .
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:28 pm
by Bowbroom
Don’t forget that the only people allowed to vote at Region are those that are properly mandated organisation delegates
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:49 pm
by Bowbroom
Agenda back on the website
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:30 pm
by CHARLTON34
Update from Ian Evans tonight, on Wednesday evening there will be a question & answer on YouTube for people to ask questions about the RPRA proposal's, I also think Dan Soanes Brown will be on it as well,so if you have questions you'd like to put to him you can at
[email protected] for Wednesday.
Regards Dave.
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:51 am
by Bowbroom
Doesn’t look like the CEO has much time for the propositions according to his post on the web site
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:42 pm
by king
This CEO has his head in the sand. He began his article with the heading evolution, not revolution . How has it changed in the last 50 years? He clearly doesn't want change. He says democratic process is at the very core of the RPRA constitution? But it is so structured, change from grass roots is almost impossible. He says The RPRA is now on a sound financial footing? It is at present till they have to increase subs again from even fewer members to maintain the status quo.
With keeping ALL the regions the RPRA will end up with more chiefs than Indians. And the Indians will cover the running costs.
My suggestion start a NEW Union from scratch with fewer rules.
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:25 pm
by Bowbroom
I Wondered when the new union idea would surface again, my suggestion is as it always has been, if that’s what you want then get on with doing it give people a “choice” or as usual, will others be expected to do it for you? I suspect it will end up the same way as all the other times it’s been suggested with a big fat nothing as the proposers are never prepared to put the work in to achieve what they espouse.
Organisations necessarily evolve over time, to say that nothing has changed over 50 years is clearly wrong, some people detest the RPRA for whatever reason and nothing that the association does will ever suit them, the answer of course as this forum member has done is to resign and have nothing to do with the union ever again except to criticise when the opportunity arises.
Personally I think that the resistance to the propositions will occur because they will be considered to be too far too quickly.
We will know following the AGM.
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:48 pm
by goose1
Bowbroom wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:25 pm
I Wondered when the new union idea would surface again, my suggestion is as it always has been, if that’s what you want then get on with doing it give people a “choice” or as usual, will others be expected to do it for you? I suspect it will end up the same way as all the other times it’s been suggested with a big fat nothing as the proposers are never prepared to put the work in to achieve what they espouse.
Organisations necessarily evolve over time, to say that nothing has changed over 50 years is clearly wrong, some people detest the RPRA for whatever reason and nothing that the association does will ever suit them, the answer of course as this forum member has done is to resign and have nothing to do with the union ever again except to criticise when the opportunity arises.
Personally I think that the resistance to the propositions will occur because they will be considered to be too far too quickly.
We will know following the AGM.
Correct. The current team running the RPRA have turned things around brilliantly in the last 12 or so months. It is in a much better place than it was. And the CEO states that in time he knows smaller regions WILL have to merge. I can understand why people have put the propositions in but theres an old saying..all that glitters isn't gold. If they think big savings are gonna come off the back of it I think they could be in for a shock.
Re: RPRA Rule Changes
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:48 pm
by king
Bowbroom wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:25 pm
I Wondered when the new union idea would surface again, my suggestion is as it always has been, if that’s what you want then get on with doing it give people a “choice” or as usual, will others be expected to do it for you? I suspect it will end up the same way as all the other times it’s been suggested with a big fat nothing as the proposers are never prepared to put the work in to achieve what they espouse.
Organisations necessarily evolve over time, to say that nothing has changed over 50 years is clearly wrong, some people detest the RPRA for whatever reason and nothing that the association does will ever suit them, the answer of course as this forum member has done is to resign and have nothing to do with the union ever again except to criticise when the opportunity arises.
Personally I think that the resistance to the propositions will occur because they will be considered to be too far too quickly.
We will know following the AGM.
Well with an monopoly on membership many are stuck with the RPRA. This 'get off your ar$e' line is always used by the RPRA when members want change. Many have tried but failed because the rules are in place to make it almost impossible to make changes. I'm no longer a member, but having read the CEO piece it's clear the RPRA wants to remain UNCHANGED from the 50+ years when I was a member.
It's clear that a declining membership, WILL just keep paying more for service as usual.
I do like your line, resistance to the propositions will occur because they will be considered to be too far too quickly? They've had a 100 years to change. The ONLY change I've seen since 1975 when I first joined is a rapid declining membership. If the membership were happy with the RPRA there wouldn't be so many propositions, for change? I too doubt many will be accepted.