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Re: Radiant heaters

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:51 pm
by king
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:28 pm What’s the ideal I thought 55/60 ?
Not a clue what mine is

To scared to check now 🤣
Neil they say 60% and 65%, but I don't normally check. Only took a reading because it was raining. I'll take other reading on a dry day to compare.

Re: Radiant heaters

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:47 pm
by Anthony webster
Most mine live 24,7 in aviary in winter ,,iv never seen a pigeon look freezing cold ,,when it rains hard mine are all up wire with wings up ,they was bathed yesterday n today its raining there up wire enjoying rain ,,I don't care about all these things ,harder they fill the winter the better they fill in spring when wild birds start singing that's when we race spring onwards so birds naturally fill fantastic.

Re: Radiant heaters

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:11 pm
by Anthony webster
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:52 pm
Anthony webster wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:47 pm Most mine live 24,7 in aviary in winter ,,iv never seen a pigeon look freezing cold ,,when it rains hard mine are all up wire with wings up ,they was bathed yesterday n today its raining there up wire enjoying rain ,,I don't care about all these things ,harder they fill the winter the better they fill in spring when wild birds start singing that's when we race spring onwards so birds naturally fill fantastic.
Do you miss a day a week feeding after the moult at all Anthony
No mate never 1st December racers get let out every other day .

Re: Radiant heaters

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:32 pm
by Anthony webster
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:13 pm I thought you might as years ago I new a bloke with running dogs that liked to do that I’m not sure if it was the out of season period
Ya some fast one day aweek some just cleared them out with milk n soda pal ,
Iv never been one for missing food I enjoy being with my birds so the 2x aday I look forward to each day.

Re: Radiant heaters

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:36 pm
by Steve Howells
king wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:18 pm
Steve Howells wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:56 am
king wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:51 am

I've never used heaters. If it was a problem in my loft I'd rather change the ventilation and get the air flow right . Heaters don't actually reduce humidity, warmer air can just hold more moisture. This makes the air feel less damp, but it does not remove the moisture from the air. The total amount of water vapor in the air remains the same. You got to keep changing the air itself to reduce humidity, or use a Dehumidifiers which do remove water from the air.
I believe these heaters do bring on form but work better in a loft that's dry to start with.
Trouble is King if outside humidity is Say 95% then that’s what enters the Loft no amount of jigging the ventilation can change that. I have the radiant panels fitted if the outside humidity is say 90% and I set the hydrostat to 60% the panels come on and they do drive the humidity down, to 60% eventually.
To achieve this Steve do you have to stop fresh air coming into the loft? If so isn't creating another problem? My own loft has plenty of fresh air and only when it's raining very heavy and prolonged does the humidity get high, as soon as the rain stops the humidity drops very fast.
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The air needs to come in slowly, I don’t live far from the coast and although it was dry this morning outside humidity was at 82%. I don’t use them in the winter only during racing season May onwards. ]

Re: Radiant heaters

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:42 pm
by goose1
NeilA wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:52 pm
Anthony webster wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 5:47 pm Most mine live 24,7 in aviary in winter ,,iv never seen a pigeon look freezing cold ,,when it rains hard mine are all up wire with wings up ,they was bathed yesterday n today its raining there up wire enjoying rain ,,I don't care about all these things ,harder they fill the winter the better they fill in spring when wild birds start singing that's when we race spring onwards so birds naturally fill fantastic.
Do you miss a day a week feeding after the moult at all Anthony
That's another thing I've often thought about. Wilf Reed who was not only a top pigeon man but a top sheep dog man and a farmer only fed 6 days a week. I class him as better with livestock than me so I do wonder what he seen in doing it but I'm just to soft to do it