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There's nothing wrong with the Den Euro cock George

His brother of course was base breeder "Wild Wind" at Premier Stud

Is the friend David Van Aalst?

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Devo1956 wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:54 am

MIL wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:51 am Is the friend David Van Aalst?

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Here is their site Mike

https://www.maselliwings.com/

Not who I was thinking of then

But I see he has one from Lee Painter's "463" cock

Well, I say Lee's 463 cock, I helped negotiate the sale of that cock to China about 18 months ago

Devo1956 wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:57 am

MIL wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:51 am Is the friend David Van Aalst?

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David is the agent for Pattaya OLR, Mike

David had them off Gary too

I'd need to hunt backthrough my msgs if I had to in order to see what went out, but I certainly recall him having them because he was the 1st one that we'd sent to in Oz before

Devo1956 wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:08 pm
Murry and myself have a good collection of birds, from some of these lines for our project. So I am looking forward to the visit to this loft.

I'm sure you'll have a ball

That 463 of Lee's has developed a tidy breeding record now

Devo1956 wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:44 am

Yes Mike, I agree. They also have nice bird from the Gordon Bros.

If they've had from Gary and Niall then i'm sure it'll be decent because the level that they shop at cannot be bettered

When "Best Kittel" came onto the scene they bought 10 Direct Children

They had 4 Direct "Golden Prince"

They had 6 Direct Witte Dirk

Last winter they went and got a complete round from the Stock Lofts of Pierre Beyl and Dirk Van Den Bulck

They've also got 8 direct from Blizzard King Kittel and 2 Direct from "Phantom Blizzard"


That's a pretty impressive display of power by anyone's standards

There's no guarantees of course, but top class pigeons in the hands of top class fanciers give you more than a fair shout

Good birds in the hands of an idiot are not likely to be successful

MIL wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:52 pm Good birds in the hands of an idiot are not likely to be successful

I always think pedigree and birds all look great when there not raced any one can find what’s the latest thing easy now its just on a computer no real skill to finding blood or who won what with what

Racing them is a skill for sure and that’s where many avoid being judged