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Devo1956 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:37 pm

Buster121 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:29 pm

Devo1956 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:24 pm Easy solution, find out what USA need to be repaid by Ukraine. Then EU buy minerals from Ukraine, and Eukraine then can pay the money back. It wont be 500 billion what Trump says it is. This was a set up to try and make
Zelensky look weak, I don't think it worked the real people will see what game they are playing.

They do not owe anything as far as I am concerned every country made donations of aid etc so cannot come begging for it back later

They are saying around 120 billon dollars, of old stock they would not be using anyway.

But when you see the figures it is only $69bn and the EU have supplied think was 62bn

Buster121 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:01 pm

Devo1956 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:37 pm

Buster121 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:29 pm

They do not owe anything as far as I am concerned every country made donations of aid etc so cannot come begging for it back later

They are saying around 120 billon dollars, of old stock they would not be using anyway.

But when you see the figures it is only $69bn and the EU have supplied think was 62bn

Whatever it is mate, it is not 500 billion.

Short time later

Remember “The people have spoken?” The Commander in Chief is like a child who has been told no, the people that voted for him could well have cause to regret what they wished for, Zelensky was ambushed and was dead right about them feeling secure because of the Atlantic Ocean but it was ever thus, the bribe of a state visit made my skin crawl, like it or not the West needs America despite them always having their pound of flesh as seen by us paying off their loan in 2006, if the land of the free and the home of the brave want something they usually get it in the end never mind the consequences for others

As most of you know, I don't get involved in politics, or anything else that I don't understand. But I have to say that Trump does scare me, especially if he decides to get into bed with Putin !!
In my opinion, good on Zelensky for not bowing down to him, and for not selling hos people out, it would be an insult to all those who've already lost their lives.

It is time for Europe to stand together, along with Canada. Allow Ukrain to join Nato, replacing Hungary that really is friends with Russia. We need to build our own defence, no one should live in fear.

Trev wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:52 am As most of you know, I don't get involved in politics, or anything else that I don't understand. But I have to say that Trump does scare me, especially if he decides to get into bed with Putin !!
In my opinion, good on Zelensky for not bowing down to him, and for not selling hos people out, it would be an insult to all those who've already lost their lives.

I’m similar Trev as nothing seems to change much maybe due to the time they get no matter who I vote for
So I have no views on world politics but I did think that was a set up and I thought it was close to Trump and his people Bullying even the press spoke down to him about not having a suit on , maybe he should have but I found that question aggressive and rude then after that he was clearly set up

Devo1956 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:57 am It is time for Europe to stand together, along with Canada. Allow Ukrain to join Nato, replacing Hungary that really is friends with Russia. We need to build our own defence, no one should live in fear.

Hear hear

I agree it was a set up to humiliate Zelenskyy into getting what they want. Trump doesn’t care about the war or Ukraine. He is in Putins pocket and only interested in what he can get out if it. Same as with Gazza.
As said I think Europe will get behind Zelenskyy and then Trump could resort to all sorts of threats.