Your thoughts members.

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The furthest distance by air between the 2 furthest away lofts is about 25 miles i guess

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Im not sure how to explain this exactly but ill try my best.

For us Called RV is a collection of clubs which i thought is a combine in the UK
Then we have something called FG which is also on every race and is basically a list for everyone who transported and liberated together in the same area
Then there is RegG Which is regional group basically a collection of the RV's in a given area.
And then we have ReG which is the whole regional.

If i just look at the first Race with a price list for all of them the sizes of each are following

RV Was 23 fanciers 574 birds
FG was 82 fanciers 2073 birds
RegG was 104 Fanciers 2703 birds
Reg was 185 Fanciers 5121 birds

So you could have won 4x1st on 1 race if you did manage to win the 1st in the Reg. but not alot of people in germany do doubles and would just count it was 1st.

[Spieker-Loft]

The sport is in a massive decline here unfortunately i checked a price list from 7 years ago and it had more then double of the amount of fanciers and pigeons compared to nowdays... atleast in our RV numbers are dropping rapidly

[Spieker-Loft]

Was your 3 wins Rv or Reg Leon ?
What would be a combine in Germany

RV because youngbirds are not raced in Reg in my region

[Spieker-Loft]

Im not sure how to explain this exactly but ill try my best.

For us Called RV is a collection of clubs which i thought is a combine in the UK
Then we have something called FG which is also on every race and is basically a list for everyone who transported and liberated together in the same area
Then there is RegG Which is regional group basically a collection of the RV's in a given area.
And then we have ReG which is the whole regional.

If i just look at the first Race with a price list for all of them the sizes of each are following

RV Was 23 fanciers 574 birds
FG was 82 fanciers 2073 birds
RegG was 104 Fanciers 2703 birds
Reg was 185 Fanciers 5121 birds

So you could have won 4x1st on 1 race if you did manage to win the 1st in the Reg. but not alot of people in germany do doubles and would just count it was 1st.

No a collection of clubs is a federation in the uk a collection of federations is a combine . Some federations are not in combine some will send 3500-5000 birds as federations
Other federations are small due to small radius or decline in membership
So a Rv would be a very good club here mine has 13 members but you say a RV is a collection of clubs ?
fG would be like a fed
A combine would be a mix if the other two or in many cases twice the size

If a RV is a collection of clubs with 23 members how many members are in a club ?

My club is the biggets in our RV with about 10 members at the first race and about 400-500 pigeons

[Spieker-Loft]

So the other clubs just have 13 members and 100/150 birds between them , that’s not good how many clubs are there in your RV

That was a race from mid season that i looked at. We started with 31 Memebers overall and 1191 Pigeons our first young bird race 2024
The stats i gave before was from a old bird race midway into season because thats when the big lists Like ReG come into play i just used to to show the different variations of the levels like RV RegG Reg etc

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We are 7 clubs which 1 club only has 1 member. But thats why clubs have no value in germany and is counted for literally 0. We have an internal championship in our club for the first ace pigeon of the club and the winner gets 20 bucks and thats it. But nothing official or anything like that.

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So the other clubs just have 13 members and 100/150 birds between them , that’s not good how many clubs are there in your RV

That was a race from mid season that i looked at. We started with 31 Memebers overall and 1191 Pigeons our first young bird race 2024
The stats i gave before was from a old bird race midway into season because thats when the big lists Like ReG come into play i just used to to show the different variations of the levels like RV RegG Reg etc

Ok so a Rv is like a medium fed here on a good day
What is the one you won 3 times I’m just trying to see what you term as a combine as it’s all new to me

I won 3x1st in the RV in my first 2 years. This year i had i switched feeding and nutrition plan and had the worst year of my racing career so far. but we learn from misstakes and pick right back up where i left 2023 this year

[Spieker-Loft]

All good mate you just didnt know the dynamics of how stuff works here which is different to over in the UK
Overall im pleased with my performance so far. Given the competition in my combine where people win 7th ace hen in all of germany etc im very proud of my 3x1st and i think if im proud of it thats all that matters to be honest

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All good mate you just didnt know the dynamics of how stuff works here which is different to over in the UK
Overall im pleased with my performance so far. Given the competition in my combine where people win 7th ace hen in all of germany etc im very proud of my 3x1st and i think if im proud of it thats all that matters to be honest

What I can say to you Leon is to be careful when judging Club wins in the UK

There are some ultra competitive Club wins

An example

In the West Mids we have "The Super Club" that are affiliated to the Worcester Fed. They send arond 120 birds a week BUT it's a 5 bird limit, comprising of the finest birds from a lot of the very finest fanciers racing for good money. So in black and white it might look like a 1st versus 100 birds. In actual fact, a 1st in that Club is a super super achievement - cos you take on "the best" from "the best"

Thats good to know and thats why i asked about the dynamics of it over there. Wasn't judging it was more just asking on how things work over there