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Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:00 pm
by MIL
My 2 choices would be the son of "DONKERE LEO" and the son of "POPPY"

To me, they are just that touch classier

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:16 pm
by Buster121
Devo1956 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:41 am When you think you are getting your breeding right, these are the 12 cocks i brought in for my stock shed. Also good quality hens to go with them, then things changed with my heath. So all my birds had to go, we all have different thoughts and memories about breeding.
Did I have any out of them Dev

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:22 pm
by Devo1956
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:00 pm My 2 choices would be the son of "DONKERE LEO" and the son of "POPPY"

To me, they are just that touch classier
i could not agree more with Mike, my top 2 of what i bought in.,

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:23 pm
by Devo1956
Buster121 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:16 pm
Devo1956 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:41 am When you think you are getting your breeding right, these are the 12 cocks i brought in for my stock shed. Also good quality hens to go with them, then things changed with my heath. So all my birds had to go, we all have different thoughts and memories about breeding.
Did I have any out of them Dev
No sorry Buster.

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:34 pm
by MIL
If any one has any questions or clarification needed on any of the answers on that link I provided just post here and I'll expand

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:49 pm
by Devo1956
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:34 pm If any one has any questions or clarification needed on any of the answers on that link I provided just post here and I'll expand
Just a question Mike, when selecting for new stock. Do you have a price in your mind, after researching what you want?

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:04 pm
by MIL
Good question George

I can basically answer this from 2 chairs. Before 2007 and 2010 onwards

Before 2007 everything was left to me in terms of introductions to the racing/stock loft. As such I would research and find out what I wanted and go and get it, and I would pay more or less whatever I could afford. There are various examples I could quote to you of going to M & D Evans, buying direct children of "Shadow" for instance (which you can appreciate were not cheap) but I was adamant that I wanted the best and I wanted to race the best I could - so I threw them on the garden and I raced them.
That being said, I'm trying to think of a pigeon that I paid more than £500 for and nothing springs to mind at present - so I suspect £500 is the most I've ever paid for something

When Dad restarted in 2010 he asked me to go and get him 4 pairs of Stock to start out with. So I did and these formed the basis of the new family. The maximum that was paid for the new Stock team was never more than £75 each
The parents of "Champion Eddy" were brought in for a combined fee of £75

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:10 pm
by Devo1956
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:04 pm Good question George

I can basically answer this from 2 chairs. Before 2007 and 2010 onwards

Before 2007 everything was left to me in terms of introductions to the racing/stock loft. As such I would research and find out what I wanted and go and get it, and I would pay more or less whatever I could afford. There are various examples I could quote to you of going to M & D Evans, buying direct children of "Shadow" for instance (which you can appreciate were not cheap) but I was adamant that I wanted the best and I wanted to race the best I could - so I threw them on the garden and I raced them.
That being said, I'm trying to think of a pigeon that I paid more than £500 for and nothing springs to mind at present - so I suspect £500 is the most I've ever paid for something

When Dad restarted in 2010 he asked me to go and get him 4 pairs of Stock to start out with. So I did and these formed the basis of the new family. The maximum that was paid for the new Stock team was never more than £75 each
The parents of "Champion Eddy" were brought in for a combined fee of £75
Thank you for the reply Mike, it is good when you can find good stock at bargain prices,

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:23 pm
by MIL
Indeed, The Dam of "Champion Eddy" cost me nothing. I got her from Lee Painter. No money ever exchanged hands between us

That's where prior research and long term friendships come into play

In that Q & A you'll find reference to the 1st NMCC winner "Pitbull Queen"

She too was bred by Tony & Lee Painter

One morning we met at "The Turf" which is a Toby Carvery on the A5 in Cannock

He brought with him a pair of eggs that day, so I bought his breakfast for him :)

The one turned into "Pitbull Queen"

What a deal that was!

Re: Different ways of breeding

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:32 pm
by Devo1956
MIL wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:23 pm Indeed, The Dam of "Champion Eddy" cost me nothing. I got her from Lee Painter. No money ever exchanged hands between us

That's where prior research and long term friendships come into play

In that Q & A you'll find reference to the 1st NMCC winner "Pitbull Queen"

She too was bred by Tony & Lee Painter

One morning we met at "The Turf" which is a Toby Carvery on the A5 in Cannock

He brought with him a pair of eggs that day, so I bought his breakfast for him :)

The one turned into "Pitbull Queen"

What a deal that was!
It's things like this, that makes the sport. i remember i bought a youngster from a local flyer, it won the Liverpool Amal from Hereford 2 race 7200 birds. i was going to work in Germany so i had to stop in the sport.
I gave the Amal winner back to the breeder. Free of course.