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Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:50 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:50 pm In my YB loft the YB could never come into contact with their droppings

I've yet to see a loft persuade me that that isn't the most hygenic way of operating
Was it a wire grid floor?

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:06 pm
by Albert
I think we clean out, because it makes us feel better. I don't know if it's the right thing for the birds, I have been in deep litter lofts. with a lot of good performances at 400 + miles, and lofts that are cleaned twice a day, with equally good performances, and I don't think it makes much difference.

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:28 pm
by MIL
NeilA wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:50 pm
MIL wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:50 pm In my YB loft the YB could never come into contact with their droppings

I've yet to see a loft persuade me that that isn't the most hygenic way of operating
Was it a wire grid floor?
My YB perches weren't "box perches" they stood on a wooden plinth and the droppings slid away at an angle behind them

On the floor they were steel grids and I'd lift them up and clean them daily (worst case 48 hrs)

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:46 pm
by NeilA
Ideal floor that Mike

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:26 pm
by MIL
Yes, from a health and hygiene standpoint they can't be coming into contact with the droppings (in my opinion)

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:28 pm
by Andy
I scrape out at least once a day but not worried about them coming into contact with droppings. They need to build up immunity. I don’t treat for anything so they have to have a good immune system. If any go sick they either recover or die here.

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:42 pm
by Albert
Andy wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:28 pm I scrape out at least once a day but not worried about them coming into contact with droppings. They need to build up immunity. I don’t treat for anything so they have to have a good immune system. If any go sick they either recover or die here.
If more fanciers practiced that system, the pigeons would not have the health problems, that seem to be in so many lofts nowadays.

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:43 pm
by NeilA
I spoke with a avian vet once regarding the best way

Anyway she told me the best options

1. No contact with dropping not even wood grills just steel etc

2. Deep dry litter no damp patches ,cork dry

3. Clean out 5/6 times a day and dry the scraped area instantly with a blow torch tyoe device

Worst way clean out once a day or once every few days

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:15 pm
by MIL
As we know there's 'more than one way to race pigeons successfully

For me, i was never interested in just getting them home.

I needed to be going head to head with the finest sprinters in the Midlands, and I could do that once I adapted the correct mindsight

Re: Your thoughts.

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:04 pm
by Trev
MIL wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:15 pm As we know there's 'more than one way to race pigeons successfully

For me, i was never interested in just getting them home.

I needed to be going head to head with the finest sprinters in the Midlands, and I could do that once I adapted the correct mindsight
Exactly mate, each to their own 👍 if it works for you and you enjoy what you do then it's the right way to do it 👍😁