RPRA Rule Changes

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Diamond Dave wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:19 pm Our club sec went to pay the club fees to the region and they are still demanding payment by cheque.???
The club doesnt even have a current cheque book.!!!
Its not all about an ageing membership, its about efficiency through modernisation. Much easier to achieve these days. IMO its the ageing membership at that higher level that are scared of change through complete naivety.
The RPRA only published the actual propositions and they didnt publish the intentions that went with them.
This includes a 12 month transition period which would be the safeguard to a smooth change over and shows that the propositions would be sympathetic to the ageing membership.
Spot on
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Bowbroom wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:53 pm I think I’ll respond in the manner you have employed in the past on this thread, you are fully aware of the duties carried out by region secretaries and committees which if your propositions are carried will have to be done by the CEO, the staff or the Executive Committee in the future
Just reinforces to me that you have a total lack of understanding of the proposals and how they would be implemented. Not surprising if you rely on the propaganda published by the 'RPRA" as your sole basis for evaluating the proposal. Just keep that head in the sand and hiding being that ALIAS
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This rubbish about ageing membership not being able to adapt to changing technology and online services is simply that ; RUBBISH.
here are some statistics published in July 2024 relating to our elder population and their usage of the Internet.

81% of over 75's and over in the UK use the Internet
91% of people 64 to 75 in the UK use the Internet.

Your barrier to change simply doesn't stack up.
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NeilA wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:38 am
Ian Evans wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:15 am This rubbish about ageing membership not being able to adapt to changing technology and online services is simply that ; RUBBISH.
here are some statistics published in July 2024 relating to our elder population and their usage of the Internet.

81% of over 75's and over in the UK use the Internet
91% of people 64 to 75 in the UK use the Internet.

Your barrier to change simply doesn't stack up.

In my club of 14 lofts
5 have no internet and another in partnership needs his son to do it
It could be our club is below the national averages
Looks that way but but I'm sure that among the 9 who do have Internet one of them would help the other 5 carry out simple transactions online. In most, the club sec would do it. No different to he or she doing it but completing a paper based document and posting along with a cheque. The point is a minority not having access is no basis to withhold what some may see as progress and certainly progress towards reducing costs.
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NeilA wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:54 am Was there a way of finding out what the proposals were with explanations anywhere ? I guess there was somewhere and I missed it I imagine
There have been links to videos posted on this thread. The 'RPRA' conveniently missed out a vital part of the proposition in its publication when they published it.
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NeilA wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:09 am
Ian Evans wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:59 am
NeilA wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:54 am Was there a way of finding out what the proposals were with explanations anywhere ? I guess there was somewhere and I missed it I imagine
There have been links to videos posted on this thread. The 'RPRA' conveniently missed out a vital part of the proposition in its publication when they published it.
I didn’t see them to be honest as I normally just get into the racing pigeon topics on here but then this would only get a small amount seeing it
Just thinking how would people know how to vote ?
Most of my club didn’t have a clue what it was about I can’t think of anyone at the meeting that had a full explanation of any of it in spoken or written form
It's an obvious weekeness in the process which is why myself and a couple of others chose to do videos to explain the proposals. Some on here saw that as collusion lol The RPRA could certainly do better at publicising the proposals and explaining. I will post links on here again shortly but I warn you in advance that you will need a couple of hours spare.
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https://youtu.be/EHCvTYe1GTY?si=BJ_SSUk6YPu-DOw6

https://youtu.be/tDkIBjCjem8?si=6jnmT6-AeF0IyMjl

The above are links to 2 videos explaining the proposals as best I could. The following link is one we did in response to the initial levy

https://youtu.be/LynpqvZ7lZI?si=0A8qxpWZ-75fp1vA
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NeilA wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:18 am
Ian Evans wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:16 am https://youtu.be/EHCvTYe1GTY?si=BJ_SSUk6YPu-DOw6

https://youtu.be/tDkIBjCjem8?si=6jnmT6-AeF0IyMjl

The above are links to 2 videos explaining the proposals as best I could. The following link is one we did in response to the initial levy

https://youtu.be/LynpqvZ7lZI?si=0A8qxpWZ-75fp1vA
Thank you
Unfortunately to late for us but I should have checked this thread a long time back before the club had the meeting in early February
Yeah to late but to be fair we did concentrate on pushing this via you tube and Facebook as that's where a larger proportion of fanciers can be reached.
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NeilA wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:17 am To be honest it’s my fault to have missed them on here and to late now as we voted
But like you say if it’s not set out on the proposals I can’t see how anyone can vote for change as how do you vote for something you don’t know
I’m pretty sure none of my club are on here here regular either if at all
That could be the issue when the votes are in
And likewise I don't understand how people can vote against them when they have no real understanding of the content and what it means. Some obviously don't want to know for various reasons including being 'dogmatic' about trundling on in the same old way because that's the way we have always done it.
Thanks for your interest.
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Luckily everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Nobody's opinion is any more valuable than somebody else's. We all see things differently. The only thing that must happen is whatever the outcome of Fridays vote we all get behind them.
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