Rump

[NeilA]

What’s members thoughts on the rump for racing
I used to like a broad strong rump / back but I’m finding some good birds don’t seem to have that
I still like a tail that doesn’t go up and down but I am starting to think the strength of the rump is not so vital for racing as i once did
My treble fed winner had a terrible rump he was all front and broad with a weak back
What’s other thoughts

[Buster121]

Can't really say I have ever taken any notice as long as the bird is fit and healthy

[NeilA]

Can't really say I have ever taken any notice as long as the bird is fit and healthy

Do you never look at balance or pin tail breeding feathers, throat etc when bringing one in or when you select

[Buster121]

Can't really say I have ever taken any notice as long as the bird is fit and healthy

Do you never look at balance or pin tail breeding feathers, throat etc when bringing one in or when you select

No I only ever had birds from people I know, i handle and wing spread but that is about it

[NeilA]

Can't really say I have ever taken any notice as long as the bird is fit and healthy

Do you never look at balance or pin tail breeding feathers, throat etc when bringing one in or when you select

No I only ever had birds from people I know, i handle and wing spread but that is about it

So what would you look for mate when you handle anything in particular that you like or don’t like

[Andy]

I don’t buy pigeons in so the only thing I use as a selection criteria is the basket and whether they are fit and healthy. I don’t treat for anything so if any get sick they either get over it or die/got rid of. I don’t want pigeons with a weak constitution or poor immunity. I have had good pigeons of all shapes and sizes so don’t worry about how they handle.

[NeilA]

I don’t buy pigeons in so the only thing I use as a selection criteria is the basket and whether they are fit and healthy. I don’t treat for anything so if any get sick they either get over it or die/got rid of. I don’t want pigeons with a weak constitution or poor immunity. I have had good pigeons of all shapes and sizes so don’t worry about how they handle.

What do you do if say you had 2 seasons of poor results would you not look to add something you like or think would add a bit of speed or are you in a position to bring them in from highly successful lofts ?
I’m not well connected with many top lofts so I tend to buy one in if I need it but only for reasonable money I tried the other way of buying more expensive pigeons but found it no better just emptied my wallet

[Andy]

I don’t buy pigeons in so the only thing I use as a selection criteria is the basket and whether they are fit and healthy. I don’t treat for anything so if any get sick they either get over it or die/got rid of. I don’t want pigeons with a weak constitution or poor immunity. I have had good pigeons of all shapes and sizes so don’t worry about how they handle.

What do you do if say you had 2 seasons of poor results would you not look to add something you like or think would add a bit of speed or are you in a position to bring them in from highly successful lofts ?
I’m not well connected with many top lofts so I tend to buy one in if I need it but only for reasonable money I tried the other way of buying more expensive pigeons but found it no better just emptied my wallet

I have over my 50 odd years of having pigeons brought in the odd ones other than gift birds. I have tried different families as well. Out of all the ones that I have brought in I can only think of 2 that really left a mark. One of them was from Louella in a kit of 6 with no pedigrees. The other was from a good fancier that was packing up and I had the pick of the loft. A Van Hee that cost me £10. He was 16 when he died and had become the sire of the loft with nearly every pigeon having him in their pedigree somewhere. I have been gifted pigeons with fantastic pedigrees but none have really been successful.
If I had a couple of poor seasons I would look at my breeding to see where things had gone wrong. I think we all have pigeons capable of performing it’s just recognising those pigeons and making the most out of them. Having been a dairy farmer for years, so a stockman, I do think through breeding and selection from your own you should be able to consistently improve what you have. Too many people think the quick way to success is through buying in all the time.

[NeilA]

I see
That’s interesting

[Buster121]

Do you never look at balance or pin tail breeding feathers, throat etc when bringing one in or when you select

No I only ever had birds from people I know, i handle and wing spread but that is about it

So what would you look for mate when you handle anything in particular that you like or don’t like

I don't look for anything in particular but do have a knack of picking decent birds from eyesight and just holding them